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Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:56 pm ]
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Wasnt there a three day test prior to spa in 07? I woud lole that, obviously.
Author:  Echti [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:31 pm ]
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There are reports that Bahrain will be the 2014 season opening race on 2nd March 2014 in 21 race calender (including New Jersey and Sotchi).
Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:17 pm ]
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and it was rumoured that it would be a special event for its 10th anniversary. Possibly complete night event.
Author:  Fish88 [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:38 pm ]
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With the fireworks in the background that must look nice.
Author:  Regiotap [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 9:41 pm ]
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Moto GP @ Doha is always at night. That's the only reason people like that circuit.
I think Bahrain at night will give a special feature to the race.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:04 pm ]
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but it'll be starting like at 6PM like Abu Dhabi or 8PM like singapore?
Author:  StefMeister [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:45 pm ]
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James Allen via twitter:
Quote:
Pirelli at the centre of a new row likely to brew up shortly.....


The changes they want to make to prevent the delaminations maybe?
Author:  RtN [ Sun Jun 09, 2013 11:53 pm ]
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I wouldn't think so, the only real argument over that is whether they use a kevlar belt to hold the tread and the sidewall together or glue.
Author:  StefMeister [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:53 am ]
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Was apparently that they referred to Di Resta as an Englishman in there post race report.

https://twitter.com/BadgerGP/status/343 ... 48/photo/1
Author:  Ian-S [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:10 am ]
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gd49 wrote:
Ian-S wrote:
BBC did an interview with Brawn and one thing he said was really interesting, paraphrasing it was basically, "Pirelli approached many teams and always got the same answer, how much are you going to pay us for the test". Even Horner admitted Pirelli had approached them about doing a test, but dodged the question with a MP type answer when pushed on the subject.

I think there's far more to this than meets the eye so to speak.


So does that mean pirelli did give every team the chance to test? I guess they would have already said that if that was the case, but could be a potential get out for pirelli.


You tell me :lol:
Author:  phil1993 [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:17 pm ]
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Tribunal confirmed for June 20th; Pirelli also charged
http://www.f1zone.net/news/fia-confirms ... ing/19300/
Author:  bigears [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 4:35 pm ]
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More reason for Pirelli to walk away in November?
Author:  Mika Kimi [ Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:13 pm ]
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I wouldn't blame them.
Author:  webbsy [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:21 am ]
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How slighted must Pirelli feel. They get knocked from pillar to post at almost every step. First the degrading tyres and now this. If Pirelli stay in F1 any longer then their reputation will be slaughtered. Pirelli have far far more to loose by staying in F1 than from leaving it.
Author:  westracing01 [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:55 am ]
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What utter nonsense. Best thing to happen to F1 in quite sometime and all they get for their work is bitch fest after bitch fest from the drivers, teams, fans, sanctioning body.

If it wouldn't cost them such a staggering amount to break the contract I'd walk away saying fuck off effective immediately.
Author:  RtN [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:08 am ]
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It wouldn't cost them anything though. Their contract ends at the end of this year. They can walk away without any penalty.

Again, I hope they do. F1 would truly reap what they have sown with the awful tyres they'd have to use next year.
Author:  StefMeister [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:49 am ]
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Thing is though that if Pirelli were a part of breaking the regulations then they do deserve a penalty.

Whether that hurts Pirelli or not if they broke the rules or ignored conditions set by the FIA then they can't be allowed to walk away unpunished just because any punishment may give them bad PR & see them walk away from F1.


As to the criticism relating to there tyres, I think some of it is deserved as its Pirelli who decide what compounds to make & how they make them.
The tyre degredation & amount of tyre management seen in 2013 isn't ideal, Nor is the delaminations & the changes to the 2013 compounds/construction was purely down to Pirelli so the problems seen with the 2013 tyres is 100% Pirelli's fault.


The delamination issue in particular needs to be fixed as thats potentially a big safety issue.
Author:  webbsy [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:42 am ]
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I agree with you on the delaminating tyres, but not on the degrading tyres.
Did the FIA actually issue them with a specific degradation target backed up with measurable data? or did they just say "make them like Canada 2010"? If the FIA actually gave them very specific figures and Pirelli have gone too far, then yes Pirelli need to take the blame. However if the FIA just said make tyres that degrade and spice up the show, then the fault lies with the FIA. Me thinks the latter.
Author:  bigears [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:19 am ]
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RtN wrote:
It wouldn't cost them anything though. Their contract ends at the end of this year. They can walk away without any penalty.

Again, I hope they do. F1 would truly reap what they have sown with the awful tyres they'd have to use next year.


Or maybe use the Avon wheels used for Historic Grand Prix races?

That would be interesting!
Author:  Fabs [ Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:03 am ]
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Back to boredom when Pirelli leaves then.
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