2014 Random F1 Discussion

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:08 pm

that new guy might just be holding the seat until briatore arrives, and that might be one dangerous choice

acopip · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:16 pm

kals wrote:

I wouldn't expect so. I don't think Bianchi has the appropriate experience to replace Domenicalli.

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phil1993 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:42 pm

Haas press conference:
- Guenther Steiner is the team principal
- Base in Kannapolis, USA, satellite base in Germany or Italy
- Plan for 2015 but may defer until 2016, depends on progress with technical partner - will decide within 4-6 weeks
- Discussions held with Dallara over chassis
- Mercedes or Ferrari engine
- Goal of entering is to grow Haas Automation worldwide

Fish88 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:47 pm

Looks ambitious. If Dallara can deliver a car within 107 limit for under 10 million they surely can do some reasonable stuff with a bigger budget.

micha · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:48 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Haas press conference:
- Guenther Steiner is the team principal
- Base in Kannapolis, USA, satellite base in Germany or Italy
- Plan for 2015 but may defer until 2016, depends on progress with technical partner - will decide within 4-6 weeks
- Discussions held with Dallara over chassis
- Mercedes or Ferrari engine
- Goal of entering is to grow Haas Automation worldwide

Is the Toyota base in Germany still available?

Wouldn't it be smarter to set up a satellite base in England though?

phil1993 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:50 pm

Steiner points out that the cars don't go back to the F1 factories between the final pre-season test and before the Spanish GP, so they need a European base for the mid-season part, but it'll work to have the main base in the US.

ellis · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:54 pm

micha wrote:

Is the Toyota base in Germany still available?

Isn't that where Toyotas Le Mans effort is run from?

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:03 pm

JJ wrote:

Looks like Mattiacci doesn't really have any motorsport background but he's just a businessman. I fear dark age for Ferrari, maybe worse than 1991-1993.

In fairness, lack of racing experience isn't *always* a bad thing. It didn't hurt Flavio, for example.

Gaara · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:04 pm

ellis wrote:

micha wrote:

Is the Toyota base in Germany still available?

Isn't that where Toyotas Le Mans effort is run from?

I believe so.

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:08 pm

kals wrote:

That's been Ferrari's approach for many years now.

But anyhow, this departure from Ferrari is a few years late. As was Massa's. As is Alonso's.

Yup. Alonso should have gone earlier and seek for something better, albeit there are virtually no better options available now.

Alonso did wonders with Clifford, without him it would be a complete laughing stock, just look at what Massa did at the same time.

What a joke this Haas attempt is. Dallara, really?

absolute shit company. Can't provide anything even nearly decent on a competition. They are ok for providing stuff for spec series, that's all.

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ellis, yes. AFAIK, TMG is using that for LMP1 project

Fish88 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:11 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

kals wrote:

That's been Ferrari's approach for many years now.

But anyhow, this departure from Ferrari is a few years late. As was Massa's. As is Alonso's.

Yup. Alonso should have gone earlier and seek for something better, albeit there are virtually no better options available now.

Alonso did wonders with Clifford, without him it would be a complete laughing stock, just look at what Massa did at the same time.

What a joke this Haas attempt is. Dallara, really?

absolute italian shit company. Can't provide anything even nearly decent on a competition. They are ok for providing stuff for spec series, that's all.

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ellis, yes. AFAIK, TMG is using that for LMP1 project

Didn't F3/Indycar became spec series because Dallara was dominating? Surely they aren't that bad. You can't really blame them on the HRT failure. They weren't involved in running that car and only developed it for a limited budget.

Artur Craft · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:15 pm

Don't know about F3/Indy. Do you remember Dallara when they were in F1 in early 90s?

They can't compete on a F1 level. If they could, they would have never left F1("the pinnacle of racing").

Just my humble opinion, would love to be proved wrong and we have another competitive team on the field, but I'm calling it a failure, this early

Marussia(Virgin or whatever it was called back then) also had limited budget and was developed solely on CFD, while Dallara developed HRT car on wind tunnels and still came up with some worse.

Btw, if Haas is priding themselves on having a super windtunnel, why aren't they developing their own car on it?

Gaara · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:16 pm

Yep. Dallara just built the car, it's not their fault that HRT were shite. The upgrades to the car were nothing to do with Dallara. Give it to a different team and the car would have been so much better.

kals · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:21 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

Don't know about F3/Indy. Do you remember Dallara when they were in F1 in early 90s?

They can't compete on a F1 level. If they could, they would have never left F1("the pinnacle of racing").

Just my humble opinion, would love to be proved wrong and we have another competitive team on the field, but I'm calling it a failure, this early

Marussia(Virgin or whatever it was called back then) also had limited budget and was developed solely on CFD, while Dallara developed HRT car on wind tunnels and still came up with some worse.

Btw, if Haas is priding themselves on having a super windtunnel, why aren't they developing their own car on it?

Dallara aren't / weren't a team either during HRT time or in the 90's, they were simply a chassis constructor who was working to the budget they were given by the teams that employed them.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:35 pm

Artur Craft wrote:

Btw, if Haas is priding themselves on having a super windtunnel, why aren't they developing their own car on it?

Because it doesn't comply to FIA regulations.

Remember that a lot of time Dallara has been shit because of the teams paying them (if and when they could).

kals · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:53 pm

That's three of us now saying pretty much the same thing Phil.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:12 pm

Ferrari against the new regulations (again)
http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/presid ... -i-dont-f1

alex1369 · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:26 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Ferrari against the new regulations (again)
http://formula1.ferrari.com/news/presid ... -i-dont-f1

They are all in the same boat. And its same reg. for all. They didnt make the best of it like Merc..
While usually when new regs. are out its a chance to have a advantage...

StefMeister · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:04 pm

And the president of the Italian Olympic Committee's opinion matters to F1 because...?

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:11 pm

StefMeister wrote:

And the president of the Italian Olympic Committee's opinion matters to F1 because...?

they believe that after FIA was recognizes as a sport body by the IOC things could change with this statement

quite rubbish tbh

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