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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 15 Japanese GP - Suzuka |
I think the race is going to be exciting, since we have Rosberg at the back of the field and a bit mixed midfield and the tires will play a big role. Let's hope it's going to be the usual Suzuka action!  By the way, why are Kamui behind Renaults and Schumi? For my understandment Kamui did a time on sectors one and two and probably even crossed the line in the pitlane. Renault drivers didn't do anything and I'm not sure about Schumacher either. 
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| Author: | RtN [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 15 Japanese GP - Suzuka |
The downward spiral of Lewis Hamilton continues. Flipped off Schumacher in parc ferme before blaming him for the issue that developed. For the record, Webber blames no-one. Liuzzi will start tomorrow. Adam Cooper is Tweeting that Kamui will start P7. |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:30 am ] |
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StefMeister wrote: EJ thinks Rosberg should be upto 14th place at the end of the 1st lap based on the speed of his car. I think thats a bit optimistic. I think that Schumacher did 22nd to 13th (from memory) in 1998. But that was with the 2nd best car of the field, a rocket start, and in a "nothing to lose" mood. |
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:37 am ] |
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Hoping to see another storming drive by Hamilton to the win, like he used to do when he'd had a hard-luck quali. Would put an end to this "Shame Lewis Shame" rubbish, at least momentarily. |
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| Author: | nightflight [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:32 am ] |
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Hamilton ATOM- 
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| Author: | cambridge [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:49 am ] |
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what's that green thing they put outside turns? it seems pretty slippery. I would like to see it in every circuit, driver's mistakes can again ruin their races it seems! |
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: F1 2011 Round 15 Japanese GP - Suzuka |
What a great lap from Vettel. Full risk. Not thinking about 1 point. Just full risk for pole.If tyres are a big problem tomorrow, Rosberg could still do a good job, because he haven't used his tyres in qualifying. I think Kobayashi and Senna destroyed all their softs today. |
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| Author: | StefMeister [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:48 pm ] |
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RtN wrote: The downward spiral of Lewis Hamilton continues. Lewis has also said that the moves Webber & Michael put on him were dangerous:Flipped off Schumacher in parc ferme before blaming him for the issue that developed. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95149 |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:52 pm ] |
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KK in 7th confirmed. http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/95173 |
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:53 pm ] |
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Lewis should not complain. He did the same thing to Massa two weeks ago. It is just an error from McLaren to bring out the cars so lately in Q3. |
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| Author: | noikeee [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:46 pm ] |
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Glad I didn't wake up to watch this nonsense, when 4 of the top 10 decide not to bother to do a lap something's seriously wrong. I was so excited for F1 this season and this DRS experiment. It did turn out awesome. But Vettel killed the excitement. 
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| Author: | Mattzel89 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:28 pm ] |
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I blame the other teams for not being good enough (not saying that this year is boring) |
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| Author: | Shaddix [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:41 pm ] |
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noikeee wrote: Glad I didn't wake up to watch this nonsense, when 4 of the top 10 decide not to bother to do a lap something's seriously wrong. they should change the rules like if you don't set a time in Q3, you have to start on the tyres you have set your best Q2 time on simple and efficient |
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| Author: | aerogi [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:55 pm ] |
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even more simple, if you don't set a time in Q3, for whatever reason, you will have to start at the back of the cars that lined up in Q2, meaning in this case the 11th will move to P7, 12th will move to P8 etc. what a load of nonsense was that all about? Q3 used to be a thriller last year. |
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| Author: | noikeee [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:56 pm ] |
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Mattzel89 wrote: I blame the other teams for not being good enough fair enough. i know domination is a part of f1 and happens once in a while, it happens in every sport and it's deserved, but it's boring to watch
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:58 pm ] |
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noikeee wrote: Glad I didn't wake up to watch this nonsense, when 4 of the top 10 decide not to bother to do a lap something's seriously wrong. They have to go back to qualifying tyres next year. Then the problem is solved. I can fully understand the teams who decide not to drive. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:01 pm ] |
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How about just letting them start on whatever the hell rubber they want? |
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| Author: | aerogi [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:02 pm ] |
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it's amazing, that with so much regulations, even down to the number of cilynders, a team can be so much stronger. I also blame the overwhelming reliability these cars have these days, and the 'forgiving' tracks. How many times did a driver get onto the tarmac run off area but was able to continue? Lik in FP, vettel was slightly over the curbs, into the gravel and bam he was out. that's what I want to see. I want the feeling the are on the edge. Take parabolica. Not a difficult corner, but because of the lack of run off area it is great to see them driving close to the white line. it has been a good year regarding races, but a bad year for an exciting championship, but I think we have been spoilt in recent years. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:10 pm ] |
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Well the last few championships have been very exciting - 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2010 went down to the final race. With regards to tracks, yes, its a great old school track. Even recently the challenge has been neutered slightly by the run-off at Turn 1, Spoon and 130r. I mean, take out the barriers and add Istanbul style run-off and the track would be simply alright. I think Webber said it best when he said that by the time you've done Degner, it feels like the equivalent of 6 laps of Bahrain |
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:24 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: How about just letting them start on whatever the hell rubber they want? That's not the problem. The problem is that Renault, Force India or Sauber have to use 3 set of softs to get into Q3. Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari can only use one set of softs to reach Q3. That's a big difference, if you look at the tyre issues this year. The gap between the topteams and the subtop-teams are just getting bigger and bigger with these tyres. You score points in the race, not in the qualifying. Toro Rosso is doing a good job this year. They are saving tyres in qualifying, and score a lot of points in the race. If you look to Alguersuari, he have failed to reach Q2 many times, but he had an advantage in the race. If they bring back the qualifying rules (and ban the parc farme rules), the problem is solved, we should get a better qualifying, and you won't see (dis)advantage in the race of drivers who have used/not used the softer tyres. Without problems, Rosberg can maybe score a lot of points tomorrow. Not because he is doing a hell of a race, but he is just having a tyre advantage. Just like Webber in China. |
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