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Author:  Ian-S [ Fri May 01, 2015 9:17 am ]
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Tobias wrote:
would be nice to have the Moscow raceway added to the schedule as well.


Would be better for Moscow Raceway to simply replace Sochi, at least the Moscow track has elevation and a bit of character.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Fri May 01, 2015 4:20 pm ]
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is the May 1st once again, and for the 21st time we remember one of the greatest in the history of the sport, for some the best brazilian in the history of the sport and for a handful of people the greatest sporting hero of all time

When I was child I liked races already but never had the patience to watch races going along like I had in the past 18 years since my first race as an enthusiast. That means I never actually saw Senna race, only in watching reruns and all that stuff that is available nowadays. But I remember the May 1st, 1994 and the following days, it was the saddest motorsport moment I witnessed, millions of people in the streets to mourn their hero. Seeing just by the crash itself, it was just a champion that went away doing what he loves, but for many people, it was the loss of their only source of happiness and joy during difficult times.

I still get very emotional seeing the reaction of regular people like me to his death, and just like Niki Lauda says about James Hunt "I wasn't surprised, I was just sad" explains a lot what we feel.

Anyway Senna is not my all time favorite driver, but he did that on the limit and that's why the brand slogan is so appropriate (Driven to perfection), because he achieved that on some circunstances during his career (Monaco 1988 qualifying, Brazil 1991, Donnington 1993) and that's why we pay tribute to him every May 1st.

Keep on the limit, you're still an inspiration.

Author:  kals [ Fri May 01, 2015 5:14 pm ]
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Ian-S wrote:
Tobias wrote:
would be nice to have the Moscow raceway added to the schedule as well.


Would be better for Moscow Raceway to simply replace Sochi, at least the Moscow track has elevation and a bit of character.


Would be even better if F1 didn't bother going to soulless venues and countries that have next to no interest in the sport or a decent enough fan base to fill the grandstands.

Author:  Ian-S [ Fri May 01, 2015 7:48 pm ]
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Don't be such a negative nancy, Putin is a fan, so every Russian is a fan ;)

Author:  Metzo [ Fri May 01, 2015 8:06 pm ]
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kals wrote:
Ian-S wrote:
Tobias wrote:
would be nice to have the Moscow raceway added to the schedule as well.


Would be better for Moscow Raceway to simply replace Sochi, at least the Moscow track has elevation and a bit of character.


Would be even better if F1 didn't bother going to soulless venues and countries that have next to no interest in the sport or a decent enough fan base to fill the grandstands.

i rather see them race at soulless venues like sochi than see them butcher another classic track like they did with hockenheim or mexico city.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Fri May 01, 2015 8:54 pm ]
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Ian-S wrote:
Don't be such a negative nancy, Putin is a fan, so every Russian is a fan ;)


things that Putin is a fan

-oligarchy
-money laundering
-USSR
-F1?

Author:  Omega [ Sun May 03, 2015 2:54 pm ]
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kals wrote:
Ian-S wrote:
Tobias wrote:
would be nice to have the Moscow raceway added to the schedule as well.


Would be better for Moscow Raceway to simply replace Sochi, at least the Moscow track has elevation and a bit of character.


Would be even better if F1 didn't bother going to soulless venues and countries that have next to no interest in the sport or a decent enough fan base to fill the grandstands.

they have already dumped again tracks like Turkey, Valencia, India and Korea. If Austin doesn't start to give interesting races soon they might drop that as well in 2 years.

Author:  Gaara [ Sun May 03, 2015 3:02 pm ]
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It's down to money. Some countries are willing to waste money on bringing F1 to their dire, shitty, soulless and spectator free shitholes.

And F1 is too willing to gobble up that money.

Author:  Fabs [ Sun May 03, 2015 3:39 pm ]
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It's simply because that money is needed to sustain F1 and the way it is organised and managed by stakeholders.

Author:  Shaddix [ Mon May 04, 2015 10:54 am ]
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Fabs wrote:
It's simply because that money is needed to sustain Bernies empire.

FTFY

Author:  Fabs [ Mon May 04, 2015 11:40 am ]
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lol, don't be naive. If CVC want enough ROI, Bernie simply has to find countries who pay massive sums to host a race.

Author:  Ian-S [ Mon May 04, 2015 12:02 pm ]
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Bernie skims a percentage from each deal, might not sound much but 7% of £100Mil is £7Mil.

It's how he became as powerful and rich as he did, the teams didn't want to collectively negotiate with tracks & TV companies, so he said OK I'll do it if you give me 7% (or 9% can't remember which) of what I get you, they said fine no problem, then it happened again, and gain, the teams were happy to have someone dong all the work for them. The other 93% was then split between FOM & the teams. When you have 10-14 people in a room none of whome can even agree on the color of the sky, let alone rules, it was easy pickings for the likes of Bernie, as easy as taking candy from a baby.

Every penny Bernie brings in to CVC is profit for them now, they've long since got back the £2billion it cost them, and every time a £70million 5 year deal is announced, 7-9% of that is his commission, the teams, drivers, tracks and TV companies were all happy with the arrangement, so if you want someone to blame, blame them.

Author:  LucasWheldon [ Mon May 04, 2015 3:52 pm ]
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did Bernie made his testament already? it would be very surprising if he gives the whole money to improve F1 but I guess his wife and daughters will take it all

Author:  Ian-S [ Mon May 04, 2015 4:24 pm ]
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Bernie 'owns' nothing, it's all tied up in complicated family trusts to avoid paying tax, if he needs money, it's 'loaned' to him by the 'trust' meaning no tax is due.

The BBC did an investigation into him a while ago, he tried (multiple times) to get an injunction to stop them airing it, but failed.

These kinds of trusts are all very complicated and a total mindfuck to try and pick apart.

Author:  racer612008 [ Mon May 04, 2015 6:29 pm ]
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Iran wants F1 now apparently
http://motorsportstalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... 1-circuit/

Author:  Juihi [ Tue May 05, 2015 10:37 am ]
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F1 doesn't mind going to other countries with questionable leaderships, but I can't see this one happening

Author:  siggy [ Tue May 05, 2015 4:49 pm ]
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118793

So, from silver to graphite-grey. Euhm sure. So basically, they go from silver to grey.
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Author:  kals [ Tue May 05, 2015 5:01 pm ]
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So Luca Di Montezemelo, how are those sour grapes tasting?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118796

Author:  Fabs [ Tue May 05, 2015 5:06 pm ]
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:lol:

Author:  Justin Time [ Tue May 05, 2015 8:05 pm ]
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kals wrote:
So Luca Di Montezemelo, how are those sour grapes tasting?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118796

It is actually a very interesting interview and I can understand his reasoning behind saying that Ferrari is in a way lucky. Of course they worked their arses off last year when the car was built, but in general i agree.

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