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2009 F1-16 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18
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Author:  Gabriel [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver of the race - Brazil
Soul Reaver wrote:
Kubayashi for sure. Made all those guys that entered F1 in the mid-season look total begginers. And a lot of F1 drivers pussies. He's got the balls (or Japan craziness) with skills to do it right.


That's the great thing about japanese drivers. They seem to be born without common sense. Which is awesome.
Author:  SFM [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
I guess Kimi got a puncture on the first lap, didn't he?
Author:  Fox [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
SFM wrote:
I guess Kimi got a puncture on the first lap, didn't he?


Badly damaged front wing
Author:  Coldtyre [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver of the race - Brazil
Fllying_Fin wrote:
Kobayashi is classified 9th. He didn't score any points, did he? :?

Oh my bad, of course he didn't.
Magnifico wrote:
I really don't understand the voting.

Mark Webber was dominant and had pace in reserve.
Robert Kubica got a BMW on merit onto the podium in the dry and did so from 8th on the grid. Harrying Webber as long as he could and beating a Brawn on merit.
Sebastien Buemi scored Toro Rosso's first point in the dry and never once lost his head.
Raikkonen after nearly getting KO'ed by Webber. Drove around with fuel in his eye and recovered for 6th.
Let alone the recoveries of Hamilton, Vettel and Button.

Kamui Kobayashi's debut was entertaining and spirited but it certainly wasn't the drive of the day. That honour I'll give to Kubica just ahead of Webber.


Most of us are not expert F1 analysts and we don't have the insight to appreciate a good, solid drive by a pilot if it's a lonely drive. We don't care because it's BORING to see someone accumulate qualifying laps all the race, even if it does require talent.

We want FIGHTING, and that's what the Man of the Race award is for IMO. It doesn't go to the "best" driver, but rather to the one who shined with his agressivity, determination, ballsiness and craziness over the race and gave us good times.
Author:  Gaara [ Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
He clipped Sutil before then, I'm pretty sure he had a puncture to go with the broken wing.
Author:  Bigal87 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
thedoctor46 wrote:
StefMeister wrote:
Vid's from BBC Pre/Post race online here:
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4735&p=229403#p229403


Apparently during Lee Mckenzie's interview with Lewis, People were throwing nuts & food at him 8O

This from her twitter page:
Quote:
Don't really want to dwell on these idiots but some fans through some nuts, and food and stuff whilst I interviewed Lewis.


Thats just needless and mean, i dont get that kinda thing :(
what a shame they behave like that sometimes, i didnt notice it happen tho will have to take another look later


I'm not his biggest fan to say the least but I agree.
Its just ridiculous. Bernie should do something about the racism issue.
Author:  iks [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
Bigal87 wrote:
thedoctor46 wrote:

Thats just needless and mean, i dont get that kinda thing :(
what a shame they behave like that sometimes, i didnt notice it happen tho will have to take another look later


I'm not his biggest fan to say the least but I agree.
Its just ridiculous. Bernie should do something about the racism issue.


They weren't throwing shit at him because he's half black or whatever he is. They were throwing shit at him because he, from their perspective, ruined Barrichello's race. Pretty simple...

I wouldn't blame Rubens for that since Lewis was the car behind him but I wouldn't completely blame Lewis either. Racing incident.
Author:  Gaara [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
They were racing, Rubens was defensive while Hamilton was attacking. Which is exactly what racing drivers should be doing.

Unfortunately the endplate just clipped Rubens tyre.
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
Gaara wrote:
Kova didn't get fined, the team did.


Well, he still had the 25 second penalty for something outside of his control.

Where are the penalties for Webber and Kobayashi? That stunt on Nakajima was worth a race ban and Kimi was lucky not to go flying off either on lap one.
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver of the race - Brazil
Saying that Webber doesn't deserve the points because his move on Kimi was unfair and then voting for Kobayashi? :lol:
I went for Kubica. Great drive and much fairer than Webber.
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rate the Brazilian Grand Prix
First half of the race was awesome. Last half was abit dull. I'll give it a 7. Definitely a decent race in a season of forgettable races. Just lacked a fight for the win and any action towards the end (barring Rubens and Hamilton).
Author:  NVirkkula [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
De Cesaris fan wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Kova didn't get fined, the team did.


Well, he still had the 25 second penalty for something outside of his control.

Where are the penalties for Webber and Kobayashi? That stunt on Nakajima was worth a race ban and Kimi was lucky not to go flying off either on lap one.



Yeah, but it's FIA. Their logic is to be illogical when giving penalties for the same crimes. They don't use the common law system...
Author:  Ospi [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
De Cesaris fan wrote:
Gaara wrote:
Kova didn't get fined, the team did.


Well, he still had the 25 second penalty for something outside of his control.

Where are the penalties for Webber and Kobayashi? That stunt on Nakajima was worth a race ban and Kimi was lucky not to go flying off either on lap one.

Pfft, I remember MS doing exactly the same thing to Montoya in 03 and nothing came of it. The FIA set a precedent back then that it was ok.
Author:  kals [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
I think it was 02, but that's beside the point. Monty got the first drive through in F1 for a first corner incident at Malaysia, despite doing nothing wrong, then the FIA failed to penalise Michael at the Brazil GP for that chop. I'm with NVirkkula in that the FIA's logic is illogical.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
FIA = Ferrari International Assistance

Schumacher understeered into Montoya at Malaysia and Brazil he moved twice, but the stewards were never going to penalise Ferrari.
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
Yeah, i remember the MS and JPM incident. I wasn't happy at the time about that either :p It just seems such a cheap easy way to defend your position and ruin your opponents car (and risk a big accident).
Author:  Gabriel [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
mclaren2008 wrote:
FIA = Ferrari International Assistance


That's a new one..
Author:  andrewf1 [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rate the Brazilian Grand Prix
8/10 and thank god for that, the last few races have been absolute snoozers.
Author:  OS [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 F1 Grande Premio Petrobras Do Brasil Oct.16-18(Spoiler)
Fresh.
Author:  Bleu [ Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Driver of the race - Brazil
IIRC Kovalainen didn't get any votes when he won in Hungary. Massa and Glock took biggest percentages then.
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