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Even if it means Massa has to crash into vettel. They're too desperate to win it and that's exactly what they'll do.

Alonso will take it. Even if it means Massa has to crash into vettel. They're too desperate to win it and that's exactly what they'll do. There's also divine intervention involved, which has helped Alonso and Ferrari more than anyone else in recent times

I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka.

Actually I hope Massa wins this race.

I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka.

iks wrote:

I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka.

so he doesn't deserve it based on 1 move in 1 corner in 1 race?

With the crapbox Alonso drove this season, I'm amazed he's still even in the hunt.

Am I the only one who wants Vettel to win the title? I mean, he's not one of my favourite drivers, but I've never liked Alonso. For all the talent he has, I just can't stand his attitude and bitching.

Bernie Ecclestone has visited Beto Carrero World Park in Santa Catarina state this Tuesday. He's evaluating a possibility of changing the address of brazilian Grand Prix from 2014 onwards.

He denied he's not negotiating with São Paulo's new major but everything is leading to the fact Interlagos is no longer taking part on the F1 schedule in a near future because the new mayor doesn't want to spend the funds required to make all reforms Bernie wants.

Rio de Janeiro (and its possible new track) and Santa Catarina may be the best options for brazilian Grand Prix in the future. Bernie was impressed with the structure found in the Beto Carrero World Park, maybe that's a strong possibility.

Author:	kals [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:29 am ]
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matthew wrote: Even if it means Massa has to crash into vettel. They're too desperate to win it and that's exactly what they'll do. Yeah I cannot see that happening. They may be desperate to win but I'm sure Massa has more moral fibre than that.

Author:	J.Morelli [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:34 am ]
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matthew wrote: Alonso will take it. Even if it means Massa has to crash into vettel. They're too desperate to win it and that's exactly what they'll do. There's also divine intervention involved, which has helped Alonso and Ferrari more than anyone else in recent times If Alonso wins, it's going to be one of the most incredible F1 championships ever.....and Alonso more than anybody else deserves it. To make a championship like that, I mean, he's put himself as a championship contender driving the car he's got, it shows he's way more than a good driver, he's a myth! More than anybody else I'll be cheering for Alonso and hopefully weather conditions may help him.

Author:	iks [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:29 am ]
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I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka. Actually I hope Massa wins this race.

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:42 am ]
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It's hard to choose someone to cheer for, Vettel sometimes act like a spoiled child, his reactions sometimes like in his radio about the overtake are just unbeliveable, it seems a teenager, but Alonso is like a spoiled child the whole freaking time! He complains about everything even with the whole team working for him, nothing is enough for Alonso, this is really annoying. Anyway between them I stick with Vettel, he's "less worse" than Alonso.

Author:	NVirkkula [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:20 am ]
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Is it possible to have less fanboyism and hating in this thread and more about the racing itself? I hope above all that it's going to be an exciting race, just like 2003, 2006, 2007 and 2008 races were.

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Author:	ellis [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:34 am ]
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iks wrote: I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka. Actually I hope Massa wins this race. I agree with this. On both counts. I don't think Alonso has been on it for a while. And I hope Massa wins at his home crowd. He's been brilliant recently and deserves that win.

Author:	Omega [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:36 am ]
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iks wrote: I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka. so he doesn't deserve it based on 1 move in 1 corner in 1 race?

Author:	acopip [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:36 am ]
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I just want an enjoyable race... Fernando's 2nd place in the WDC is like a win for me

Author:	iks [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:03 am ]
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Omega wrote: iks wrote: I'm not convinced Alonso deserves it. He really messed up in Suzuka. so he doesn't deserve it based on 1 move in 1 corner in 1 race? That was one example. I'd say Lewis "deserves" it more than either Vettel or Alonso.

Author:	ellis [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:08 am ]
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Lewis has been driver of the season so far. He's punched above his weight several times. But I guess it proves that F1 really is a team sport, and he doesn't have the car or team behind him to get it done. McLaren are going to miss Lewis.

Author:	Fabs [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:08 pm ]
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With the crapbox Alonso drove this season, I'm amazed he's still even in the hunt.

Author:	Mika Kimi [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:30 pm ]
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Personally I didn't find Vettel's season very impressive. His winning streak was great but overall I feel that Hamilton has been the best this season, followed by Fernando.

Author:	mclaren2008 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:59 pm ]
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Fabs wrote: With the crapbox Alonso drove this season, I'm amazed he's still even in the hunt. Senna drove an equally inferior car in '93 and won 5 races against the dominant Williams.

Author:	J.Morelli [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:43 pm ]
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Bernie Ecclestone has visited Beto Carrero World Park in Santa Catarina state this Tuesday. He's evaluating a possibility of changing the address of brazilian Grand Prix from 2014 onwards. He denied he's not negotiating with São Paulo's new major but everything is leading to the fact Interlagos is no longer taking part on the F1 schedule in a near future because the new mayor doesn't want to spend the funds required to make all reforms Bernie wants. Rio de Janeiro (and its possible new track) and Santa Catarina may be the best options for brazilian Grand Prix in the future. Bernie was impressed with the structure found in the Beto Carrero World Park, maybe that's a strong possibility.

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:35 pm ]
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Here's how the championship would look like in the old 10-6-4-3-2-1 system, Sauber would be ahead of Mercedes, Hamilton would be ahead of Raikkonen and Vettel would have the title already in his hands... Driver's Championshp 01 – Sebastian VETTEL – 90 Pts 02 – Fernando ALONSO – 80 Pts 03 – Lewis HAMILTON – 59 Pts 04 – Kimi RAIKKONEN – 51 Pts 05 – Jenson BUTTON – 49 Pts 06 – Mark WEBBER – 46 Pts 07 – Nico ROSBERG – 22 Pts 08 – Felipe MASSA – 22 Pts 09 – Romain GROSJEAN – 19 Pts 10 – Sergio PEREZ – 17 Pts 11 – Pastor MALDONADO – 12 Pts 12 – Kamui KOBAYASHI – 11 Pts 13 – Nico HULKENBERG – 06 Pts 14 – Michael SCHUMACHER – 05 Pts 15 – Paul DI RESTA – 04 Pts 16 – Bruno SENNA – 01 Pt Constructor's Championship 01 – Red Bull – 136 Pts 02 – McLaren – 108 Pts 03 – Ferrari – 102 Pts 04 – Lotus – 70 Pts 05 – Sauber – 28 Pts 06 – Mercedes – 27 Pts 07 – Williams – 13 Pts 08 – Force India – 10 Pts

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Author:	EAS [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:17 pm ]
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stimaro wrote: Too footballish. That's more for motorsport.

Author:	De Cesaris fan [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:38 pm ]
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Am I the only one who wants Vettel to win the title? I mean, he's not one of my favourite drivers, but I've never liked Alonso. For all the talent he has, I just can't stand his attitude and bitching. I know plenty of past champions have always had a whine and demanded number one status, but I just really can't stand him. Sue me. Hamilton, Vettel, and Alonso are all equally deserving of the title this season, in my opinion. They've been a class above the rest.

Author:	dr dog [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:08 pm ]
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De Cesaris fan wrote: Am I the only one who wants Vettel to win the title? I mean, he's not one of my favourite drivers, but I've never liked Alonso. For all the talent he has, I just can't stand his attitude and bitching. My thoughts 100%. How anyone can pull for Alonso is beyond me. But hey, different strokes for different folks.

Author:	Fergo [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:13 pm ]
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I'm pretty split between liking Vettel or Alonso in terms of who I like more but I'd rather Alonso won instead of Vettel winning 3 in a row.

Author:	gd49 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:34 pm ]
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J.Morelli wrote: Bernie Ecclestone has visited Beto Carrero World Park in Santa Catarina state this Tuesday. He's evaluating a possibility of changing the address of brazilian Grand Prix from 2014 onwards. He denied he's not negotiating with São Paulo's new major but everything is leading to the fact Interlagos is no longer taking part on the F1 schedule in a near future because the new mayor doesn't want to spend the funds required to make all reforms Bernie wants. Rio de Janeiro (and its possible new track) and Santa Catarina may be the best options for brazilian Grand Prix in the future. Bernie was impressed with the structure found in the Beto Carrero World Park, maybe that's a strong possibility. I'd be sad to lose interlagos, its a good track for racing with plenty of history. Would the other options be brand new tracks with all that goes with that?