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I was being sarcastic.

(I voted no.)

It's too harsh really..

Its fairly clear he broke rule 40.13 if you take it as written, However I'd have just moved him back behind Alonso, 20 second penalty seems a bit harsh considering.

I actually felt the pass was legal untill I read regulation 40:13 which does seem pretty clear. It clearly says the SC will pit at the end of the last lap (Which it did) & that passing is not allowed.

not fair. Put him back to 7th, behind Alonso.
Also: 20 seconds, wtf? Sometimes it's 25s, sometimes 30s. Now 20. Next race it will be 18,5

So was I.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

A Green-White-Checker rule in F1 would be interesting indeed.

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This penalty is harsh. Swap places back is better then this.

Also made a difference between drive through and stop/go. Stop/go is 30 second penalty.

20 secs penalty is fair when you look @ the FIA rules , but swapping positions was a better solution.
FIA rules are changing all the time, first 25 secs now 20 secs nobody knows, whats next 15 secs LOL

nooo, what did you do? now this discussion is going on in 2 threads

I like how you get spoiled by the thread title, followed by a spoiler warning

Voted "no"

The only reason the Safety car goes in at the end of the last lap is because they want to trick the news broadcasts that only show the chequred flag that it was a really close finish instead of having them all trundle over the line behind the safety car.

It's bullshit and I've always hated it....

Keep the SC on the track over the line and none of this would've happend.

I've voted for fair, I don't want one corner of racing at the end of the lap, load of crap tbh....

What if the accident takes place on the main straight? There are debris all over the place. Will the SC go in nonetheless?

For anything regarding SC, F1 should have a little look at what is done overseas in Nascar, where the rules actually make sense in every possible case.

Swapping positions back would have been ok, imo. But a 20s penalty for such a maneuver isn't the right thing as the field was close together due to the safety car. It wasn't even overtaking under yellow as it was green in the final turn and no SC boards out. Thinking of this, every penalty is bullshit but thinking of the fact that actually no one usually overtakes in the situation like this and the rules (almost) clearly say what you have to do ... I don't know. 20s would've been ok without the field pushed togheter but not like this. I mean, if he relies on the green lights he is basically punished for a mistake of someone else although the team and he could've known the rule ...

for the 1567498798798 time, they issued a message to the teams "SC in on this lap"

When Hamilton did the same with Webber in China he didn't get punished and I moaned untill you told me that the rules had changed.

Regardless of if it is fair or not, why was Schumi punished and Hamilton wasn't when they did the same thing Or am I missing something?

Yeah, and? They always have?

Doesn't change the fact that I think it's a bullshit move that's just for show, to try and trick any fans that aren't watching live that the finish was a close one between all the top 10 cars without a safety car crossing the line first.

I don't give a shit about the controversy at the moment, but if its an SC finish then it should be just that, the SC should lead them across the line so there's no confusion like this.

The only time I can remember that happening is Montreal 97 I think...

No. They haven't. They only display that when they are going back to racing. The previous times when the race has finished under SC there has been no message, or the message "Race will finish under Safety Car", see Australia 2009.

They declared they were going racing, they waved green flags which mean it is legal to race, and then they penalised somebody for racing.

And fuck, they aren't trying to "trick fans". Fans are watching it ffs. It just looks better to have the finish without a big silver road car in front.

I think that the decission is right. Overtaking as such is the worst thing that can happen in a race. I mean. who wants to see overtaking? Me not. And applying the rules correctly? No that would be to easy. In my oppinion it should be part of the race that after the finish line one driver is disqualified for any reason. The reason itself is voted among the TV viewers. That would be funny.