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Formula 1 Gran Premio Heineken d’Italia 2020
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Author:  mclaren2008 [ Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:53 am ]
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You think the chicanes are bad, second Lesmo is even worse.

That corner is one of the worst on the calendar. There is no satisfaction gained whatsoever from that corner.
Author:  RtN [ Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:29 am ]
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The second Lesmo is fine. It is a worthy challenge in cars that don't have a retarded power-to-grip ratio.
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:09 pm ]
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RtN wrote:
The second Lesmo is fine. It is a worthy challenge in cars that don't have a retarded power-to-grip ratio.


This - it's a good challenge. The previous corner was basically a Tamburello-lite as it was practically flat even in the early 90s.
Author:  Gabriel [ Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:17 pm ]
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Yeah, Lesmo 2..

I'm an expert of putting the rear left in the gravel, at the F1 video games, with bad consequences.

Fuck that corner lmao
Author:  codename_47 [ Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:40 pm ]
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If they were to take out any chicane, I vote the final one before the run down to the parabolica

It's rare you get any overtaking there even with the 2nd DRS zone and I'm sure Vettel and Stroll would be glad to see the back of it.

A run from Lesmo 2 all the way to the final corner would be old school cool
Author:  Soul Reaver [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:55 am ]
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That last chicane is the most fun chicane on the calendar. And it ain't that slow. I could call it the temple of speed if they removed the first two chicanes and left the last one there.
Author:  Gabriel [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:40 am ]
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I'd create an IMS Turn 1 clone, from the straight after Lesmo 2, into the one before Parabolica.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:19 pm ]
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removing the chicanes could be fun if the teams run zero downforce

and flat out the front wings
Author:  Coldtyre [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:26 pm ]
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Is this just a long-winded conversation to establish the same universal truth we all know deep down: that the problem isn't the tracks, it's the F1 cars?

They make SPA look boring and challengeless, for fuck's sake.
Author:  RtN [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:41 pm ]
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No, Spa's problem is the track. There is far too much tarmac.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:18 pm ]
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also Monza has it's problems. Parabolica should never had been had it's runoff asphalted

but I don't mind hammering away winglets and front wings from the cars
Author:  racefan [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:22 pm ]
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RtN wrote:
No, Spa's problem is the track. There is far too much tarmac.

Spa is actually looking into bring gravel back in various places, amongst which Eau Rouge. Not to spice things up for F1 or cars in general though, it's an demand by one of the motorbike organizations. Let's hope that actually materializes
Author:  Gaara [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:19 pm ]
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LucasWheldon wrote:
also Monza has it's problems. Parabolica should never had been had it's runoff asphalted


Exactly, gone is the challenge of going as wide as possible for maximum speed without the grass/gravel pulling a car out wider and punishing the driver.

And as Peroni proved, the tarmac is far more dangerous because they installed ramps to stop the drivers going wide.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:59 pm ]
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dunno why don't they place a 30cm wide strip of grass alongside, just to cut some of the grip
Author:  pimmy [ Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:44 am ]
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30cm wouldn't be anywhere near enough. It would need to be about 4m or roughly 2 car widths to really punish people, and that's only if tracks must have tarmac run-off. Ideally, there'd be grass & gravel everywhere because it was never a problem.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:46 am ]
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Wasn't the Parabolica tarmac added so they could run bikes
Author:  JJ [ Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:30 am ]
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Seems like they're already practicing for Q3 traffic jam.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:38 am ]
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Stappy in the wall
Author:  JJ [ Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:39 am ]
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Why red flag? Local yellows was enough.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:56 am ]
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Vettel slower than Nissany who was on harder tyres :8:
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