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Author:  Omega [ Thu May 03, 2012 9:00 am ]
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I can drive that track in F1 Challenge 99-02, and it is fun in one way but I actually hate to drive it. But it looks nice on tv when MotoGP races on it. Especially the main straight that isn't straight.

Author:  Kilmore [ Thu May 03, 2012 10:38 am ]
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Ferrari got a new nosecone yesterday, and new rear bodywork today. What happens? Alonso bins it 3 hours into the test today... :mrbean:

Author:  Neil [ Thu May 03, 2012 11:14 am ]
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lmao

Author:  OS [ Thu May 03, 2012 11:22 am ]
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I think they were planning a new floor as well, but maybe that's for Barcelona ...

Author:  Justin Time [ Thu May 03, 2012 11:22 am ]
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Kilmore wrote:
Ferrari got a new nosecone yesterday, and new rear bodywork today. What happens? Alonso bins it 3 hours into the test today... :mrbean:

Image

Author:  Fabs [ Thu May 03, 2012 12:50 pm ]
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:(

Author:  Tobias [ Thu May 03, 2012 1:17 pm ]
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sure that wasn't Massa with Alonso's helmet on?

Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Thu May 03, 2012 2:21 pm ]
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I wish I hadn't been working so I could have seen old F1 cars at Snetterton. :(

Author:  micha [ Thu May 03, 2012 2:49 pm ]
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Petrov doesn't agree with Webber and us :(
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99315

Author:  StefMeister [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:02 pm ]
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Quote:
"I don't think we should have come here," said the Caterham driver. "It is not safe and wide enough.

"If you lose it, the walls are so close and you will smash into the tyres. It is not for Formula 1 and, if you lost the steering or the tyre pressure dropped or whatever, then it will be a big crash."
Guess they should stop going to Montreal, Suzuka, Spa & Monza as well then.

From what I've seen of Mugello in the past there is plenty of run-off where there needs to be, Maybe he's just not used to seeing so much gravel?

Author:  micha [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:03 pm ]
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StefMeister wrote:
Quote:
"I don't think we should have come here," said the Caterham driver. "It is not safe and wide enough.

"If you lose it, the walls are so close and you will smash into the tyres. It is not for Formula 1 and, if you lost the steering or the tyre pressure dropped or whatever, then it will be a big crash."
Guess they should stop going to Montreal, Suzuka, Spa & Monza as well then.

From what I've seen of Mugello in the past there is plenty of run-off where there needs to be, Maybe he's just not used to seeing so much gravel?



Monaco and Valencia are even worse then....

Author:  Shaddix [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:14 pm ]
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micha wrote:
Petrov doesn't agree with Webber and us :(
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99315

Petrov is a paydriver, he should shut up.

Author:  RtN [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:22 pm ]
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Mugello would be utter shit for F1 racing. The cars are too powerful and too wide.

End of discussion.

Author:  Scirocco [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:46 pm ]
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Still would rather have them race at Mugello then tracks like Valencia and Abu Dhabi

Author:  RtN [ Thu May 03, 2012 3:55 pm ]
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Oh, and in the interests of balanced reporting, here is a Petrov quote from yesterday that Autosport and others selectively diminished for the purposes of creating a story where there wasn't one.

Vitaly Petrov wrote:
I have very good memories of Mugello as this is where I won in F3000, so coming back is good. I'm not sure the track is right for today's F1 cars - you get very close to the walls and it's maybe a bit small for the cars now, but it's still a good challenge putting together a quick lap. I think we can be pleased with what we have achieved here today. The car has run faultlessly all day and we have completed everything we targeted in today's runplan. This afternoon we started running some new parts and even though it's too early to make any judgements on what sort of step forward they give us, I can say the new rear wing we tried immediately felt like it was giving us more downforce. The car's balance felt better and there was more grip, so that's definitely a step in the right direction. Hopefully we can have a similar day tomorrow and give ourselves a good chance of making more progress when we're back racing in Spain next week.


From the Caterham press release.

Author:  codename_47 [ Thu May 03, 2012 4:03 pm ]
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It does look great, I just hope F1 doesn't get too keen on the place that they demand tarmac runoff, track changes, kerb changes and bulldozing the character out of the track like they do most other places they visit.

I guess a testing licence means a track can retain some character rather than have to completely change in order to suit the whims of the FIA...

Author:  acopip [ Thu May 03, 2012 4:17 pm ]
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Nah, we just saw in Bahrain, Sepang and China that we just need to have good cars to have good racing.
Neither Monaco nor the new Silverstone circuit or Barcelona provide better racing than new tracks like Valencia or India...
It's just up to the cars. Monaco is just for the show, like Abu Dhabi and Singapore are and Silverstone is just there for the tradition...
In 40 years the people will talk about Abu Dhabi as a traditional track and F1 will maybe go to Africa or some other country.
The thing about the tarmac is shit, I agree, but didn't India provide a good solution?
Formula 1 is so great this season, just enjoy it :)

Author:  codename_47 [ Thu May 03, 2012 4:21 pm ]
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acopip wrote:
Nah, we just saw in Bahrain, Sepang and China that we just need to have good cars to have good racing.
Neither Monaco nor the new Silverstone circuit or Barcelona provide better racing than new tracks like Valencia or India...
It's just up to the cars. Monaco is just for the show, like Abu Dhabi and Singapore are and Silverstone is just there for the tradition...
In 40 years the people will talk about Abu Dhabi as a traditional track and F1 will maybe go to Africa or some other country.
The thing about the tarmac is shit, I agree, but didn't India provide a good solution?
Formula 1 is so great this season, just enjoy it :)


Actually I'd argue the new Silverstone layout has returned it to being more of a high speed track like it used to be and has provided some great overtaking in the 2 years it has been used so far.

Monaco is going to be an absolute shitstorm if the tyres stay the same as they currently are.
There'll be trains all over the track as various cars have different grip levels, which will lead to frustration, desperate moves and crashes bringing out the safety car.
Which will be a nightmare to predict strategy wise and lead to an completely crazy race, at least, here's hoping ;)

Why do I get the feeling Pirelli will bring slightly more durable tyres for Monaco though... ;)

Author:  Artur Craft [ Thu May 03, 2012 7:46 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
Monaco is going to be an absolute shitstorm if the tyres stay the same as they currently are.
There'll be trains all over the track as various cars have different grip levels, which will lead to frustration, desperate moves and crashes bringing out the safety car.
Which will be a nightmare to predict strategy wise and lead to an completely crazy race, at least, here's hoping ;)

:(
I intended to post the same, with different words, obviously, when we got near to the GP. Now, it wouldn't be original anymore.
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Felipe Massa appeared to criticise this decision in the Italian media yesterday, saying “It would have been better to test everything here. but we are not ready. To close the gap to the top we need to grow faster than them. But I think that in the next few weeks we will find two or three tenths.”

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/05/t ... o-crashes/

uh oh, Ferrari

Author:  ellis [ Thu May 03, 2012 7:47 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
Why do I get the feeling Pirelli will bring slightly more durable tyres for Monaco though... ;)


Actually the opposite. Monaco is the first race this year where we'll have the Super-Soft/Soft combination. Sepang was Medium/Hard, the rest were Soft/Medium.

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