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Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
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Author:  Cheeveer [ Thu May 31, 2018 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
Minimizing people's joy is important.
Author:  webbsy [ Thu May 31, 2018 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
We will never agree on this, but one thing we can agree on is that yes, the race was pretty boring apart from the will he finish or won't he.

Oh and in regards to the nationality thing, my favorite driver is actually that divisive pantomime devil Alonso. I love him to death, but even I can see that he only has himself to blame (a tad Ferrari) for not being a 5 time world champ.
Author:  codename_47 [ Thu May 31, 2018 4:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
You can have a fantastic performance in a dull race

Micheal Schumacher's "extra pit stop" races in Hungary 1998 and Magny Cours 2004 (?) were tactically brilliant, but dull as balls to watch as they didn't involve any overtaking, just putting in qualifying style laps then coming out ahead.

So I'm not sure quite why people are arguing.

It's also possible to say both Micheal Schumacer and Ricciardo did brilliant jobs in difficult, but not identical circumstances

Why everything must be compared these days as an either/or is baffling
Author:  Omega [ Thu May 31, 2018 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
codename_47 wrote:
You can have a fantastic performance in a dull race

Micheal Schumacher's "extra pit stop" races in Hungary 1998 and Magny Cours 2004 (?) were tactically brilliant, but dull as balls to watch as they didn't involve any overtaking, just putting in qualifying style laps then coming out ahead.

So I'm not sure quite why people are arguing.

It's also possible to say both Micheal Schumacer and Ricciardo did brilliant jobs in difficult, but not identical circumstances

Why everything must be compared these days as an either/or is baffling

I think that is neither mine, webbsy's or anyone's point.
Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Thu May 31, 2018 7:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
Hungary 1990 was actually a pretty good race, and drive from Boutsen. There was a lot of action and incidents at the front.
Author:  kals [ Thu May 31, 2018 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
De Cesaris fan wrote:
Hungary 1990 was actually a pretty good race, and drive from Boutsen. There was a lot of action and incidents at the front.


I can remember feeling very frustrated after that race, as Berger and Senna got away with some pretty desperate driving. By today’s standards both would have received hefty penalties.

The 1989 Hungarian GP was pretty great as well. Even before Patrese picked up a mechanical issue which dropped out of the lead.
Author:  codename_47 [ Thu May 31, 2018 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
Which was the one where there were 2 half flips at the first chicane, 1990?

I remember thinking that one was pretty good for a Hungary race, also 1989 with Mansell's passes

I guess F1 didn't outgrow that track until 1993 at the earliest.
Author:  kals [ Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
codename_47 wrote:
Which was the one where there were 2 half flips at the first chicane, 1990?


Yes. Senna punted off Nannini, while Berger did the same to Mansell.
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
kals wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
Which was the one where there were 2 half flips at the first chicane, 1990?


Yes. Senna punted off Nannini, while Berger did the same to Mansell.



Can't quite make it out on a small screen, but Mansell on Berger(?) at 27s is basically Schumacher on Barrichello.
Author:  NVirkkula [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
I think this was the best bit of Monaco Grand Prix this year.
https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/ap2x6Y9_460svvp9.webm
Author:  kals [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
gkmotorsport wrote:
kals wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
Which was the one where there were 2 half flips at the first chicane, 1990?


Yes. Senna punted off Nannini, while Berger did the same to Mansell.



Can't quite make it out on a small screen, but Mansell on Berger(?) at 27s is basically Schumacher on Barrichello.


The Berger and Mansell incident isn’t included in this video. But their incident is near identical to the Senna and Nannini incident which is shown.
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
kals wrote:
gkmotorsport wrote:
kals wrote:

Yes. Senna punted off Nannini, while Berger did the same to Mansell.



Can't quite make it out on a small screen, but Mansell on Berger(?) at 27s is basically Schumacher on Barrichello.


The Berger and Mansell incident isn’t included in this video. But their incident is near identical to the Senna and Nannini incident which is shown.


I don't mean the chicane punt - at 00:27 the VHS-blur McLaren pulls out on the pit straight and is driven towards the wall by the MPEG-artifact Ferrari :mrgreen:
Author:  kals [ Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Grand Prix de Monaco 2018
gkmotorsport wrote:
I don't mean the chicane punt - at 00:27 the VHS-blur McLaren pulls out on the pit straight and is driven towards the wall by the MPEG-artifact Ferrari :mrgreen:


I get you now. Although Mansell’s defense is nowhere near as aggressive as Schumi’s 20 years later. What Mansell did was fairly standard for Hungaroring at the time.
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