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| Author: | gd49 [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:46 pm ] |
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I can't see the race going ahead - the protestors know that Bahrain is going to have the most attention in the coming weeks and are going to build their activities to the point where a race cannot happen. phil1993 wrote: although F1 Racing isn't going to Bahrain, but anyway Have any other media organisations announced they're not going yet? FCO advice is unrestricted travel so they can't use that to not go. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:43 pm ] |
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Tobias wrote: kals wrote: ellis wrote: Well you can draw the line between the China and Bahrain at the moment. Whilst the Chinese government sucks, they aren't currently shooting protesters in the street, which is still happening in Bahrain. Instead China just throttles the amount of information that comes out of the country borders to ensure the world doesn't really fully understand or appreciate what is actually go on there. what a load of toss 
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| Author: | iks [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Random F1 Discussion |
So...how many DRS zones in Bahrain? One on the front straight and one on the back straight parallel to the front straight? I hope the race goes forward (as long as they use the original layout). |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:29 pm ] |
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This might sound callous, but I sometimes think you need to let developing countries make their own mistakes. Yes, I know people will lose their lives, but simply preaching a good gospel isn't going to make everything better. Sometimes the mistakes we make are not enough, to really learn you've got to make it yourself. Let us not forget that 70 years ago Britain still had a colonial empire, 50 years ago racial segregation existed in the US, Australia and it's Aboriginees, the rise of Hitler, Stalin, Franco and Mussolini. I can't say I'm an expert on China, but they do seem to be heading in the right direction. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:54 pm ] |
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Gaara wrote: So Bahrain circuit officials are saying LMFAO are playing but the band's website says they're in Venezuela? What are you doing on the band's website? ¬_¬ ----------------- This may sound like a hollow promise, but should the race go ahead I will not be watching either. I will not be watching a Sky stream, nor will I watch any BBC highlights later on. I will only be paying attention to the BBC website, bracing for the inevitable. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:03 pm ] |
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RtN wrote: Gaara wrote: So Bahrain circuit officials are saying LMFAO are playing but the band's website says they're in Venezuela? What are you doing on the band's website? ¬_¬  I wasn't on it, I was just mentioning something Gary Meenaghan had mentioned. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:23 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: https://twitpic.com/show/large/96ejc4 Cancellation is likely to come during the Chinese GP weekend. But who'll blink first... Bernie won't blink, I think as we all know, as long as the GP organisers cancel the race first, they still have to pay him a percentage of the sanctioning fee, which probably gets greater the later they leave it. Its the only reason this whole thing is happening, we could all work out F1 shouldn't be racing there months ago but if the race had been cancelled then, no money for Bernie so this ludicrous chain of events plays out just the same as last year. I guess the really dumb ones are the GP organisers for falling for it twice in succession Fool me once.... |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:29 pm ] |
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Oh of course [youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0&ob=av3e[/youtubeidiot] The main issue for me is protesters have promised to directly target the race... |
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| Author: | bigears [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:02 pm ] |
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Powerful photo of the protestors in F1 overalls there. I fail to see how Porsche and BMW are involved but of course I understand from their point of view about generalising F1 like that. |
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| Author: | EAS [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:54 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: It is written in the FIA rules that a race must not interfere with politics. Actually the event itself is not allowed. The fine to the organizers of Turkey GP because of the Northern Cyprus thing, IIRC, is an example of that. But I do believe people in the environment of F1 can do something outside the official thing, of course. |
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| Author: | Shaddix [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:59 pm ] |
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I wonder if Bernie would go all "this could have happened anywhere" when a protester runs on the track and gets hit. |
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| Author: | ellis [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:02 pm ] |
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Shaddix wrote: I wonder if Bernie would go all "this could have happened anywhere" when a protester runs on the track and gets hit. Silverstone shows that can happen anywhere. Through pure luck it never happened that day. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:10 pm ] |
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ellis wrote: Shaddix wrote: I wonder if Bernie would go all "this could have happened anywhere" when a protester runs on the track and gets hit. Silverstone shows that can happen anywhere. Through pure luck it never happened that day. Yep, wasn't Button about to pull out from behind Heidfeld going down the straight? All it takes is someone behind another car to pull out and they won't see the protester until it's too late. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:26 pm ] |
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Fr. Horan was not intending to be run over. I could not be sure of the same of any track invader during the Bahrain GP weekend. |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:27 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: Juihi wrote: I won't be watching the race if it goes ahead anyway Unless you have prior commitments (hence the reason), you will be. Any fan that goes 'I won't be watching through principle' is just bullshitting. You'll watch the highlights, find out the result and still support the sport. Scotty wrote: Stop press. Guy from New Zealand who doesn't even get FTA coverage of the race won't be watching because of the Bahrain political situation he probably knows nothing about. I like how you both assume I won't be watching because of the Bahrain political situation |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:01 am ] |
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I'll watch the BBC highligs and I'll admit to watching them because deep down I know my interest in what happens will win over andy feelings of support I may have for the Bahrainis. |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:27 am ] |
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Not sure what's so vague about saying I'm not watching a race, and if you need a reason then it's the fact I'm not overally keen on staying up to 2:30am on a Monday morning to watch a procession when I have an early morning flight, but I won't bother posting next time if it creates confusion, sorry. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:29 am ] |
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EAS wrote: phil1993 wrote: It is written in the FIA rules that a race must not interfere with politics. Actually the event itself is not allowed. The fine to the organizers of Turkey GP because of the Northern Cyprus thing, IIRC, is an example of that. But I do believe people in the environment of F1 can do something outside the official thing, of course. The problem is that they've dug themselves into a hole. Cancel the race - FIA is supporting the protesters Go ahead - FIA is supporting the ruling elite. |
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| Author: | Ospi [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:50 am ] |
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DOn't see why they have to be seen as supporting either, could simply be a case of them not wishing to be racing in an unstable environment for the safety of their staff and spectators. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:27 am ] |
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Quote: Argentina looks set to replace Korea on the 2013 Formula One calendar. That is the claim of Italy's Autosprint magazine, reporting that the Argentinean national government will sign a three-year contract next month. President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner said last month that the 2013 Argentine Grand Prix, last held at the ageing Autodromo Oscar Alfredo Galvez in Buenos Aires in 1998, will take place on the streets of the coastal city of Mar del Plata. Autosprint now quotes Argentine tourism minister Carlos Enrique Mayer as saying: "The national government accepts the challenge of organizing the Grand Prix of Argentina to promote our country to the world. "In May, the three-year contract between all the parties involved will be signed," he added. The report said Hermann Tilke will be responsible for the 5-kilometer city layout. Autosprint also reported that next year's calendar will remain at 20 races, so with the addition of Argentina as well as New Jersey, two current Grands Prix will need to give way. One place will likely open up due to a new alternating scheme in Spain, with Valencia to wait until 2014 for its next race. And Autosprint added: "The Grand Prix of Korea no longer seems able to honor the financial obligations agreed with (Bernie) Ecclestone." http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... a-in-2013/ So the current situation for next year could be Valencia, Korea and maybe Spa out, New Jersey, Argentina and maybe Paul Ricard in. |
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