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I'm a fan of grammar, what should I be looking at here?



Shouldn't "An" be "A" ?


I always thought the same too, untill Ted Kravitz called the attention of it in one of his "notebooks" at Jerez.

I always used to think that "an" was just for words starting with vowels


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My feeling about Alesi has always been that, aside from unfortunate team choices, his driving style and overall racing mentality just didn't suit modern F1 cars. He would have been a wonder a few decades before.

Thins like aggressive pump-braking, hands on top of the steering wheel, violent steering, just seemed out-of-place compared to the smoother, cleaner drivers like Schumacher, Villeneuve or Hill (in the mid-late 90s that is)


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If anyone can post the article "one hit wonders" from autosport, I would love to read it! Think a lot of others here would too


Is it right to steal articles though? As its basically theft


An interesting question you pose...

So what were you doing when you thanked Echti here - viewtopic.php?t=6455&p=398559#p398559

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The time Perez has done today so far is only like 0.1 off the pole time from last year. Don't know how realistic that time is showing true pace since the tyres are a bit different but seems as if that Mclaren is quick and Perez seems comfortable already.


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BrainPain wrote:
micha wrote:
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I'm a fan of grammar, what should I be looking at here?



Shouldn't "An" be "A" ?

Nope. In this case, the R is pronounced "ar", and that is what matters.


Man, it's one of the worst language-irritations I have, seeing people getting this wrong. Only d/t-mistakes (Dutch/Flemish people will know what I'm talking about) irritate me more.


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Shouldn't "An" be "A" ?

Nope. In this case, the R is pronounced "ar", and that is what matters.


Man, it's one of the worst language-irritations I have, seeing people getting this wrong. Only d/t-mistakes (Dutch/Flemish people will know what I'm talking about) irritate me more.

Yeah, for some odd reason I feel the same way. It might have to do with the fact that it is such an easy rule to remember.

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Perez was complaining about the tyre degradation, so I was looking at the photos from the tests, take a look at that, Chilton's front and rear right tyres are badly wasted:

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It's a shame that one of the best looking liveries on the grid has now become one of the worst :(

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Perez was complaining about the tyre degradation, so I was looking at the photos from the tests, take a look at that, Chilton's front and rear right tyres are badly wasted:

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The track was so awfully littered with marbles, at the end of yesterday I picked one up from the s/f-straight and it is just completely wasted rubber :p


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He could've been in the middle of a long stint. It's hard to tell the rate of tyre degradation from pictures.


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Seen a couple comments from drivers calling the degredation "Extreme", The hard's are said to lose 5 seconds in 6 laps.


Also saw that Williams ran with the vanity panel off the stepped nose today & Sauber were running a Lotus style passive DRS system.


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Seen a couple comments from drivers calling the degredation "Extreme", The hard's are said to lose 5 seconds in 6 laps.


Also saw that Williams ran with the vanity panel off the stepped nose today & Sauber were running a Lotus style passive DRS system.

Melbourne will be funny to watch if they can't find a way to deal with the tyres.

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They'll be fine, the tyres are designed for a warmer temperature than a European winter, so that's why there's issues today, or so I've read.

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They'll be fine, the tyres are designed for a warmer temperature than a European winter, so that's why there's issues today, or so I've read.

Yeah, Perez commented about that temperature issue, which by the way is very strange, usually the higher the temperatures the worst the tyre wear, so this is kinda new, but anyway in some races they might get cold temperatures too and I wonde how the tyres will deal with different asphalt from the tracks all over the year. Pirelli made the tyres softer this year, looking exactly to more pitstops and a bigger difference from tyre types so I think the drivers saw that coming.

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I'd think the colder temps help for a greater degradation because the tyres take more time to get up to optimal working temperature, meaning that the cars struggle more early on to find grip, the rear tyres spin, the car slides and things like that. Then, the cold, grippier track would mean the surface itself, by providing more grip allows the drivers to push harder, which hurts the durability of the rubber too

I may (surely) be completely wrong thougj


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Gabriel wrote:
I'd think the colder temps help for a greater degradation because the tyres take more time to get up to optimal working temperature, meaning that the cars struggle more early on to find grip, the rear tyres spin, the car slides and things like that. Then, the cold, grippier track would mean the surface itself, by providing more grip allows the drivers to push harder, which hurts the durability of the rubber too

I may (surely) be completely wrong thougj

I think both very cold and very high temperatures are bad, in cold temperatures it's like you said, the driver has problems to find the better temperature and it may cause some slides that are bad for the tyres, in high temperatures there's a problem too, you lost grip and also the tyres are "eaten" faster by the track. Of course it's a total different F1 now, but I remember back when we had official qualifying sessions both friday and saturday, sometimes the friday times got the pole cause in the saturday the high temperatures made it impossible to improve even with the drivers having an improved setup, I remember that happening for an example in Adelaide in 1992.

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Lucasjeha wrote:
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Seen a couple comments from drivers calling the degredation "Extreme", The hard's are said to lose 5 seconds in 6 laps.


Also saw that Williams ran with the vanity panel off the stepped nose today & Sauber were running a Lotus style passive DRS system.

Melbourne will be funny to watch if they can't find a way to deal with the tyres.


easy win for button in that case


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Both Perez and Button are pretty good with saving tyres.


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It'll be the same as the last 2 years, crazy deg for the first few races then everyone works it out and the races are one stoppers


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mclaren2008 wrote:
It'll be the same as the last 2 years, crazy deg for the first few races then everyone works it out and the races are one stoppers

I remember a race at Melbourne, 2008 I think, can't remember exactly, the tyre wear was huge, the last laps were crazy, Kubica crashed and many drivers were suffering a lot.

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