Man, imagine there was a TBK after Suzuka 1990.

Prost left a gap.

It is not a killer instict. It is a ruthless streak that typically only the very best have. See Senna, Schumacher, Alonso, Piquet, etc...

Fucking hell I'm tired of hearing this moronic point of view. IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER YOU LIKE TEAM ORDERS. The point is if one driver is told to slow by the team and the other ignores those orders, it's neither respectful to your team nor particularly hard to beat your teammate who's been told to slow up. That's about as ballsy, gritty and "killer instinct" as bringing a gun to a knife fight.

I'm not arguing that what Vettel did was particularly fair either as it wasn't. But Webber has tried the same on Vettel before, just with less success. Does the fact that Webber wasn't successful in his attempt at Silverstone '11 make it more respectful? The intent was the same, yet I don't recall half the amount of vitriol that this has caused. Is it just because people dislike Vettel because he's been very successful and Webber is "the underdog"?

That's about as ballsy, gritty and "killer instinct" as bringing a gun to a knife fight.

I'll let you guess who is supposed to depict who in this scene.

IT'S NOT ABOUT WHETHER YOU LIKE TEAM ORDERS. The point is if one driver is told to slow by the team and the other ignores those orders, it's neither respectful to your team nor particularly hard to beat your teammate who's been told to slow up. That's about as ballsy, gritty and "killer instinct" as bringing a gun to a knife fight.

How would people have felt if we were talking about Massa doing this to Alonso?

I don't think you did that on purpose but I laughed at this coincidence

Agreed. If Vettel had told his team, 'No, I won't follow this order' and Webber was aware of that, I could somewhat respect Vettel for this so called killer instinct that his fanboys are chanting on about. But to pounce on Webber when he was under the impression that they were holding position basically makes it pure back stabbing and hardly something to be commended for.

Wasn't it quite similiar to the McLaren's at Turkey 2010? Both drivers had been asked to hold station but Jenson was harassing Lewis to the point where Lewis even said on the radio, what's going on here guys? Is Jenson going to try to pass me? And then of course as we all remember, without warning, Jenson decided to attack Lewis and did infact passing him just like Seb did. Although in that case of course Lewis fought and took the position & win back...

Massa doing this to Alonso would bring on hilarity of epic proportions I imagine purely because no one would ever see it comig. Place would explode for sure and I imagine the drama within the team would surpass even that at Red Bull right now.

Wasn't it quite similiar to the McLaren's at Turkey 2010? Both drivers had been asked to hold station but Jenson was harassing Lewis to the point where Lewis even said on the radio, what's going on here guys? Is Jenson going to try to pass me? And then of course as we all remember, without warning, Jenson decided to attack Lewis and did infact passing him just like Seb did. Although in that case of course Lewis fought and took the position & win back...

So...does everybody think that Webber turned his engine down, and was completely unable to fight Seb, then continued with his engine down? If he didn't put his all into fighting back then he's an idiot who doesn't deserve the win.

Horner seemed surprisingly meek with Seb in his radio message. I expected something a lot more stern than just "silly". Maybe something along the lines of Brawn's firmness. But I imagine that's cause it's Seb...

Was that not Rocky on the radio?