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Artur Craft
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As with Mercedes and Honda, BMW also funded Sauber to produce a car for them, and Renault funded Enstone's for the same


Do or did they? Did they not actually own the teams? OK, they might have not built the original bricks and mortar and the majority of the staff may have been taken on by their predecessors, but as far as I could tell BMW/Honda/Renault/Mercedes owned the facilities and the people involved and weren't actually funding some other party to construct the car for them.


Yes, from what I understood from it, they "bought" or "acquired" it all. But my point was precisely this, it was something artificial.

The third party build it for them, even if it, during the time, belonged to the manufactorers. In strict terms, I think we can't call them 3rd parties as they were possessions of those big car manufactorers at that time, but, in reality, that's what they were/are.

Milton Keynes' base will only belong to Red Bull untill they don't bother to be toying with race cars anymore and producing energy drinks returns to be the only thing they are well known for
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Sutil will test for Force India on Thursday. Bianchi gets a go on Friday.

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Sutil is a good driver, solid not spectacular. He is the kind of driver you need to get some occasional points, but he isn't going to perform excaptional. Bianchi is a great unknown but I seriously think he is one of the biggest talents around, but then again he could also be the next Grosjean.
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Bianchi will throw it in the wall on several occasions, but then again so did Sutil.

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20yo Stoffel Vandoorne joins the McLaren Young Driver Academy. Vandoorne won the Formul'Academy and is the reigning FR2.0 Eurocup champion. This year he joins Fortec for the FR3.5 championship.
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Holy crap that is some good news for the Belgium members. Benelux line-up in the future (Nyck de Vries, hopefully) :D.
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Magnussen needs to watch his back.

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I honestly did not see that one coming. RACB is doing a better job with their National Team than I had anticipated.
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I don't understand the Sutil test ... they ditched him for the Hulk at the end of 2011. He's a fairly known quantity as far as what he brings to the team ... although I guess that makes him less of a risk than Bianchi, and for a team that needs to survive, that could be a big plus.
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I don't understand the Sutil test ... they ditched him for the Hulk at the end of 2011. He's a fairly known quantity as far as what he brings to the team ... although I guess that makes him less of a risk than Bianchi, and for a team that needs to survive, that could be a big plus.


He also brings money...

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I don't understand the Sutil test ... they ditched him for the Hulk at the end of 2011. He's a fairly known quantity as far as what he brings to the team ... although I guess that makes him less of a risk than Bianchi, and for a team that needs to survive, that could be a big plus.


He also brings money...


Ahh. Making a lot more sense now ... where does he bring money from? Germany, presumably.
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Does he still have Capri-Sun?

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looking forward to the wicked stories when Russia joins the F1 schedule.


maybe GoPro will sponsor the race and put dash cams on the cars and on safety car aswell

Road Rage all around the track IMO
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looked good until i saw the nose.
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From that view.......THE WALRUS IS BACK!!! haha
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Looks quite decent. Really hope it's quick.
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The nose looks exactily like the Ferrari.
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