Some more details about what looks to have been agreed/what is likely to be agreed for next year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/36099501
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:55 pm ] |
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LucasWheldon wrote: maybe if the parents could ask their little girls if they want to race karts at early age we could see more women in racing in the future Nope, they're too busy asking if they are girls at that age (Google Brighton council primary school questionaire if you're not sure what I'm talking about. Is a childish quip the best you can come up with Jacob? Ever considered that it,s people like you who are holding back the whole thing, you see every time you hear a man say something about a women you jump in an start shouting words like sexist, bigot, oppressors etc. Without giving the female a chance to respond, thus doing exactly what you're accusing the other person of doing by jumping in and not letting the female do it, effectively you're saying to that women, keep your mouth shut love, I'll defend you cos you can't. If that isn't suppressing someone I don't know what is. There's a big difference between what you do and what sexism actually is, the tennis example is just one but oh no the prize money isn't equal so it's sexism, let's not let the facts get in the way, most women don't need you to fight their battles for them, they're perfectly capable of doing it themselves and most I know would probably tell you to stop interfering, just because someone expresses an opinion about a woman that isn't complementary, and you don't agree with it, doesn't automatically make that view sexist. Coming in and start accusing everybody of sexism in total seriousness, then when you get an answer back that actually requires a serious thought out response, simple retorting playground banter seriously devalues your argument and is, to quote a well known nutter, 'seriously not cool'. |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:41 pm ] |
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So if Rosberg wins the title can we all say that equality is happening in F1? Or at least for Mercedes. |
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| Author: | Cheeveer [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:03 pm ] |
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Childish quips? Ignoring gender inequality is way more narrowminded than that. Ian-S wrote: Ever considered that it,s people like you who are holding back the whole thing, you see every time you hear a man say something about a women you jump in an start shouting words like sexist, bigot, oppressors etc. Without giving the female a chance to respond, thus doing exactly what you're accusing the other person of doing by jumping in and not letting the female do it, effectively you're saying to that women, keep your mouth shut love, I'll defend you cos you can't. If that isn't suppressing someone I don't know what is. Not aware of any active female members on this forum. I'm saying that there's way more that can be done to make the motorsport world more gender equal. Instead of perpetuating gender difference by insisting on grid girls, "persisting the stereotypical role of women as lookers not workers", and discouraging women by telling them they are less suitable because of inherent physiques. Equal opportunity, equal pay, equal cultural apprecation, why not? |
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| Author: | StefMeister [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:23 pm ] |
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Some more details about what looks to have been agreed/what is likely to be agreed for next year: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/36099501
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| Author: | kals [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:19 pm ] |
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*sigh* Unless they address the unnecessarily complex aero and huge amounts of downforce, then the rest of the changes are irrelevant. Cars should be fast down a straight and a handful in the corners, because it is all power and little downforce. F1 seems content on ensuring the opposite. |
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| Author: | ptclaus98 [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:33 pm ] |
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kals wrote: *sigh* Unless they address the unnecessarily complex aero and huge amounts of downforce, then the rest of the changes are irrelevant. Cars should be fast down a straight and a handful in the corners, because it is all power and little downforce. F1 seems content on ensuring the opposite. This. It's not just F1 though, every single seater category on earth is going this way. |
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| Author: | pimmy [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:40 pm ] |
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ptclaus98 wrote: kals wrote: *sigh* Unless they address the unnecessarily complex aero and huge amounts of downforce, then the rest of the changes are irrelevant. Cars should be fast down a straight and a handful in the corners, because it is all power and little downforce. F1 seems content on ensuring the opposite. This. It's not just F1 though, every single seater category on earth is going this way. Yes, because they all copy F1. |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:01 pm ] |
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Time to light a candle and pray this doesn't fuck up the racing. The widest the cars have been since 1997 wow, I started watching in 1998, I'll have to get used to it. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:26 pm ] |
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Didn't know they were going to be 20 cm longer (same wheel base?) Might be a few more lost front wings next year and possibly more punctures. And what's the deal with the 15 degree angle on the side pod? What will that do? |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:36 pm ] |
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dicksplaash wrote: Childish quips? Ignoring gender inequality is way more narrowminded than that. Yup: dicksplaash wrote: He who smelt it dealt it sexism? "He who smelt it dealt it" is a childish saying I'd expect to hear from a 5 year old, not an adult arguing about sexism. dicksplaash wrote: Equal opportunity, equal pay, equal cultural apprecation, why not? I never disagreed with that, neither did anybody else. Now can we get back to F1? those cars might look good but they're going to race like shit. |
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| Author: | kals [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:37 am ] |
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Race? They're just making bigger mobile advertising boards... Unless you're Sauber *badumtish* |
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| Author: | RtN [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:47 am ] |
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Banco do Brasil still occupy more square inches on the Sauber than the entirety of McLaren's "portfolio" do on their car. When you think about it, only three teams actually have prominent sponsors that are not either a) companies owned by the team owner (Red Bull\STR\Renault\Haas\FIF1) or b) the personal sponsor(s) of a driver (Sauber\Manor). The McLaren is pretty much bare and only Ferrari (Phillip Morris), Mercedes (Petronas) and Williams (Martini) actually flog their space for any decent money. |
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| Author: | Philthy82 [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 12:50 am ] |
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My last comment on the gender debate (as it is F1 thanks to Bernie's mouth) coldtyre wrote:  Quoting this because it's the most accurate statement anyone has made here on the whole issue, and also I like graphs. Truth is none of us know where racing lies on this spectrum, because gender stereotypes have given us limited opportunities to compare so far. But while we don't know, I don't see any point in statements like Bernie's that women essentially shouldn't even try to compete with men. Seems like that would potentially rob us of some great drivers being discovered in the future. The good thing is I reckon old fart commentary like that actually motivates the people nobody expects anything from more. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:42 am ] |
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All I see is hot girls in yoga pants looking at that graph |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:11 am ] |
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webbsy wrote: All I see is hot girls in yoga pants looking at that graph Now that you say it, I equally see the same thing! 
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:22 am ] |
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Ian-S wrote: imagine trying to get through a race with someone squeezing your crutch as hard as they can [...] ask you girlfriend if you can push down on her breasts for a bit really hard How the heck did you manage to guess my fetishes, get out of my mind man Anyway, back to business: These cars seem to be geared towards more mechanical grip (wider track and tyres), and less downforce, this should improve racing shouldn't it? |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:25 am ] |
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If there is a will there's a way. But F1 always seems willing to find ways to stuff things up so wouldn't be to hopeful. Its so frustrating because all the ingredients are there to make F1 kick arse, instead we get a bastardized version of what it should be. |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:42 am ] |
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coldtyre wrote: Ian-S wrote: imagine trying to get through a race with someone squeezing your crutch as hard as they can [...] ask you girlfriend if you can push down on her breasts for a bit really hard How the heck did you manage to guess my fetishes, get out of my mind man Anyway, back to business: These cars seem to be geared towards more mechanical grip (wider track and tyres), and less downforce, this should improve racing shouldn't it? Kinky. Anyway wider cars and wider tyres doesn't necessarily mean more mechanical grip, it's all relative as they say. |
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| Author: | VirtuaIceMan [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:13 pm ] |
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http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns33633.html - anyone got any pics of the track modifications? Update: found some here: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/04/21/s ... inal-turn/ |
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| Author: | VirtuaIceMan [ Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:23 pm ] |
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Here's a full selection: Hairpin - A guy working on it was asked why it changed, and answered: "drainage issues in entrance and exit... And was also too easy!":   Turn 2:  Front straight: 
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