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2012 Formula One European Grand Prix, Valencia
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Author:  Whofan [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:14 pm ]
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BBC showing that Schumi passed a yellow flag with his DRS open, although that wont necessarily mean he'll get any sort of penalty
Author:  CoCo [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:17 pm ]
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Whofan wrote:
BBC showing that Schumi passed a yellow flag with his DRS open, although that wont necessarily mean he'll get any sort of penalty

if he will be penalised then its official that schumi is the most unlucky man on the planet,,the amount of bad luck he has is just stunning
Author:  Gallie [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:18 pm ]
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Fergie wrote:
Gallie wrote:
first about the English blaming Pastor, I know that's how things go, I would do the same. I'm not a Pastor fanboy, not against Lewis, just against drivers who don't leave room for the attacking driver on the outside.

As you said yourself, there's been many drivers pushed off track this year and before, without any penalties. Lately it amazes me how easy it is to push another driver onto the dirt and drive off like nothing happened. It shoudn't be accepted at all, Pastor braked very late, stayed on the outside and if Lewis would have left some room Pastor would have had the line into the lefthander, not Lewis like you are saying.

Lewis was having the line because he ran Pastor off the track.

I agree with what you are saying about drivers pushing each other off, but a strong precedent has been set at Spa in '08 and Bahrain this year.
I completely agree that's the most arguable bit of the whole incident, but Maldonado should have rejoined after the chicane rather than forcing himself back onto the track and in a way putting himself into the position where he couldn't steer on the kerb. (not that you can't say Hamilton didn't put him there, just that he could have driven around it.) I think it's relatively accepted now that you can push people especially in chicanes like that with run off and at the end of the day Maldonado could have rejoined and overtook him at the next hairpin.


completely agree on that point, I think Pastor will do that in the future, it's just a split second decision. But he shouldn't be put into that position at all, not by Lewis, not by any other driver. If they use the escape road they are back to where they were before the attack, behind.

Attacking drivers should be encouraged, not discouraged by being blamed and penalised for cutting the corner or driving into someone when the only thing they did was attack. The one who is at fault at first, the driver who rans the other off the track, doesn't get any blame at all...
Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:18 pm ]
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Raikkonen under investigation... (that's what I'm reading).
Author:  phil1993 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:18 pm ]
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"The truth is that I gave it my all in this race, I emptied myself, and I’m satisfied"

Unfortunate choice of words from Pedro.
Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:21 pm ]
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not sure if this has anything to do with it


Fermani2 wrote:
That was awesome. I came several times. Go F1!


Fermani2 and Pedro having some fun with each other during the race? :P
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:24 pm ]
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Tobias wrote:
not sure if this has anything to do with it


Fermani2 wrote:
That was awesome. I came several times. Go F1!


Fermani2 and Pedro having some fun with each other during the race? :P


Thank your for the image :yuk:
Author:  phil1993 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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Please someone cap Ben's meltdown when Lewis shunted.

Also, is this the third weekend in a row both Williams drivers have hit something?
Author:  Echti [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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Kobayashi receives a +5 grid penalty for Silverstone after the crash with Massa.
Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:27 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
Please someone cap Ben's meltdown when Lewis shunted.



I must have missed this one, or was it not shown live during the race?
Author:  Schumifan [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:32 pm ]
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Tobias wrote:
phil1993 wrote:
Please someone cap Ben's meltdown when Lewis shunted.



I must have missed this one, or was it not shown live during the race?


He made a noise which sounded like DC had just struck him firmly in the love spuds.
Author:  Tobias [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:33 pm ]
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Schumifan wrote:

He made a noise which sounded like DC had just struck him firmly in the love spuds.


along the lines of Pedro and Fermani2? :o
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:33 pm ]
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Schummy seems to have had DRS open through two yellows.
Author:  phil1993 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:35 pm ]
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Tobias wrote:
Schumifan wrote:

He made a noise which sounded like DC had just struck him firmly in the love spuds.


along the lines of Pedro and Fermani2? :o


Wat, just. Shut up. :p
Author:  benji_boy2000 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:38 pm ]
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Awesome race!
Author:  Regiotap [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:41 pm ]
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I can't find a rule in the regulations that drivers may not use their DRS in a yellow zone.
Author:  phil1993 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:42 pm ]
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Regiotap wrote:
I can't find a rule in the regulations that drivers may not use their DRS in a yellow zone.


That's not the rule, it's if he set a personal best throughout the yellow flag zone or Sector 2? I think.
Author:  aerogi [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:44 pm ]
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Regiotap wrote:
I can't find a rule in the regulations that drivers may not use their DRS in a yellow zone.


in a yellow zone, you are supposed to be slow down (at least a little bit), with the DRS open, that might look quite the opposite, that's how I read the fact it might be a problem with DRS open in a yellow zone.
Author:  phil1993 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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For the second consecutive race, the team mate to the race winner has finished a lap down in 16th. Nerdy fact there.
Author:  Regiotap [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:47 pm ]
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aerogi wrote:
Regiotap wrote:
I can't find a rule in the regulations that drivers may not use their DRS in a yellow zone.


in a yellow zone, you are supposed to be slow down (at least a little bit), with the DRS open, that might look quite the opposite, that's how I read the fact it might be a problem with DRS open in a yellow zone.


Yeah, but if you look at the speed, Schumacher wasn't go quicker than Webber. You see clearly Schumacher slowed down at the straight end after his DRS was on.
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