Greate footage. And those sounds!
V8's, V10's and V12's.
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| Author: | Omega [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:34 am ] |
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Talking about Honda, the engine deal with Sauber has been confirmed this morning. |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:39 am ] |
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kals wrote: mclaren2008 wrote: Good old Super Aguri. The team that existed solely because Honda didn't like the negative publicity they received in Japan after dropping Sato for 2006. Corrected That's pretty much correct. Sato's 2005 season was abysmal and the Williams/Button falling out left them with no choice really. Also, that Sauber/Honda deal is a big call for them. It might be interesting to see if the Sauber car design allows for better performance. |
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| Author: | Artur Craft [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:04 am ] |
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NVirkkula wrote: This year it seems that only Mercedes and Ferrari are that 3s faster than what they were last year, others are merely a 1s faster, if any. How's this any better for the sports? are they? Only in China that Mercedes and Ferrari were 3s faster. On Melbourne I think it was something like 1.7s, on Bahrain it was like 0.7s and now, on Sochi, it was less than 2s, once more(I'm sure Rosberg could've done at least 1.34.9, going by his Q2 time) At this point I very much doubt they will improve more than around 3.5s anywhere. Barcelona should be the biggest gain, approaching 4s, but that's still far from the loudly claimed 5s, that was implied to be universal not specific to a few tracks. Let's face it, the speed gains of the cars are very underwhelming. At least they look MUCH better and are also decently fast on high speed stuff So, our beloved EJ claimed that Mclaren will use Mercedes PU next year(likely a very inferior customer one). He also said Sauber would use Honda and that Alonso is off to Renault. |
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| Author: | micha [ Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:56 am ] |
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McLaren will supply gearbox and hydrolics to sauber even if they switch engine partner according to AMuS. |
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| Author: | stimaro [ Mon May 01, 2017 5:07 pm ] |
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Greate footage. And those sounds! V8's, V10's and V12's. [tweet]https://twitter.com/1990sF1/status/858974152832712704[/tweet] |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon May 01, 2017 7:48 pm ] |
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the 1st of may is quite low for sports press, looks like time is finally healing the wounds of the greatest sports race that ever had the privilege to being born in Brazil and his life taken so early while he could win more titles than Schumacher itself anyway RIP Senna and Ratzenberger, today is a time to remember the saddest weekend in F1 history |
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| Author: | micha [ Wed May 03, 2017 8:13 pm ] |
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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/moto ... eam-mooted Yeah. Thats not gonna happen |
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| Author: | iks [ Wed May 03, 2017 9:18 pm ] |
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Eddie should buy it back. 
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Thu May 04, 2017 3:31 pm ] |
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funny that in the last episode of Top Gear Eddie interviewed Bernie and he asked if the races are fixed so championship could last until the final race, to which Bernie only replied "I don't fix nothing, only if the teams fix the races between themselves" looks like they forgot to put Eddie on the race fixing scheme 
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Thu May 04, 2017 3:34 pm ] |
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micha wrote: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motorsport/brabham-supercar-and-f1-team-mooted Yeah. Thats not gonna happen Such is the way of F1 where we lose teams regularly but the only even highly-unlikely rumours about a new team to the grid involve taking over an existing entry. We're going to be stuck at 20 cars for a while. Until we go down to 18 anyway |
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| Author: | JJ [ Thu May 04, 2017 3:48 pm ] |
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FIA hasn't even opened F1 entry process for 2018 or beyond. Last one was 2015 and the previous was in 2013. I'd rather see 6 Romanian cars at the back of the grid than 6 empty slots. |
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| Author: | micha [ Thu May 04, 2017 4:55 pm ] |
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Why even have bids? There are 3 slots available. Grab em while you can |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Thu May 04, 2017 5:05 pm ] |
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they got so worried in being a billionaire exclusive club that they forgot there are people interested in making a competition |
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| Author: | Bleu [ Thu May 04, 2017 9:11 pm ] |
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micha wrote: Why even have bids? There are 3 slots available. Grab em while you can Probably worried that someone on the level of MasterCard Lola would take a spot. |
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| Author: | micha [ Thu May 04, 2017 9:47 pm ] |
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Bleu wrote: micha wrote: Why even have bids? There are 3 slots available. Grab em while you can Probably worried that someone on the level of MasterCard Lola would take a spot. Honestly if someone is willing to spend millions to DNQ each race it's fine by me. I want a true underdog again. Give me 30+ cars fighting for 26 starting spots. Give me surprise qualifiers. Being so elitist is part of the problem. We don't need MasterCard Lola (although MasterCard is to blame for that debacle) or Andrea Moda but we do need minardi or scuderia italia or coloni or AGS. Teams knowing they don't have a shot at wins and only score a single point when extremely lucky. Yet each year they scrape up just enough money to do it all over again just for the love of the sport. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Thu May 04, 2017 10:27 pm ] |
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Lola would have been much better had MasterCard not forced them in a year sooner then they were ready for. Underdog teams like Minardi, even HRT were popular with fans. Scrape enough money to get by and if they go bankrupt, they go bankrupt. Teams have always come and gone, always used to have those teams struggling to get in with shoestring budgets, bad cars and bad engines and when they scraped in it was a good story. Like Hill unexpectedly qualifying the Brabham at Hungoring in '92. It's because they're so elitist in keeping out potential teams that they're afraid of losing the likes of Red Bull and Ferrari because that would be potentially a loss of six cars from the grid. Allow single car teams, allow customer chassis. They wouldn't be constructors so no need for the likes of Williams to worry about them in the constructors championship. They'd only be potentially able to take away points from their drivers. Actually constructor points should be different from driver points. |
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| Author: | kals [ Fri May 05, 2017 12:06 am ] |
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Bleu wrote: micha wrote: Why even have bids? There are 3 slots available. Grab em while you can Probably worried that someone on the level of MasterCard Lola would take a spot. Do you know the truth behind the Lola attempt and failure? Most people see what happened in 1997 and laugh about it without realizing what actually happened. Lola were supposed to enter F1 with MasterCard as main sponsor in 1998. Late in 1996 MasterCard insisted / forced Lola to enter a year early. Lola only had a preliminary chassis from 1995 to work with and it was hurried into preparedness for the start of 1997 along with some aged and underpowered Ford V8s. Additionally MasterCard's sponsorship plan was to fund the team based on the revenues from a special F1 / Lola team credit card membership fee. And guess what, MasterCard never came up with any funds for Lola and as such bankrupted Eric Broadley's operation. But yes, let's keep using them as the punchline for a joke. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Fri May 05, 2017 12:25 am ] |
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kals wrote: Do you know the truth behind the Lola attempt and failure? Most people see what happened in 1997 and laugh about it without realizing what actually happened. Lola were supposed to enter F1 with MasterCard as main sponsor in 1998. Late in 1996 MasterCard insisted / forced Lola to enter a year early. Lola only had a preliminary chassis from 1995 to work with and it was hurried into preparedness for the start of 1997 along with some aged and underpowered Ford V8s. Additionally MasterCard's sponsorship plan was to fund the team based on the revenues from a special F1 / Lola team credit card membership fee. And guess what, MasterCard never came up with any funds for Lola and as such bankrupted Eric Broadley's operation. But yes, let's keep using them as the punchline for a joke. Wasn't it based on a Lola chassis tested by Allan McNish in '93? |
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| Author: | kals [ Fri May 05, 2017 12:25 am ] |
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Gaara wrote: kals wrote: Do you know the truth behind the Lola attempt and failure? Most people see what happened in 1997 and laugh about it without realizing what actually happened. Lola were supposed to enter F1 with MasterCard as main sponsor in 1998. Late in 1996 MasterCard insisted / forced Lola to enter a year early. Lola only had a preliminary chassis from 1995 to work with and it was hurried into preparedness for the start of 1997 along with some aged and underpowered Ford V8s. Additionally MasterCard's sponsorship plan was to fund the team based on the revenues from a special F1 / Lola team credit card membership fee. And guess what, MasterCard never came up with any funds for Lola and as such bankrupted Eric Broadley's operation. But yes, let's keep using them as the punchline for a joke. Wasn't it based on a Lola chassis tested by Allan McNish in '93? Yes that chassis that McNish tested, it was 1995 though https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_T95/30 The 1993 chassis was run by Scuderia Italia during the 93 F1 season with that awful Chesterfield livery, and wasn't very good. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Fri May 05, 2017 1:03 am ] |
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kals wrote: Gaara wrote: kals wrote: Do you know the truth behind the Lola attempt and failure? Most people see what happened in 1997 and laugh about it without realizing what actually happened. Lola were supposed to enter F1 with MasterCard as main sponsor in 1998. Late in 1996 MasterCard insisted / forced Lola to enter a year early. Lola only had a preliminary chassis from 1995 to work with and it was hurried into preparedness for the start of 1997 along with some aged and underpowered Ford V8s. Additionally MasterCard's sponsorship plan was to fund the team based on the revenues from a special F1 / Lola team credit card membership fee. And guess what, MasterCard never came up with any funds for Lola and as such bankrupted Eric Broadley's operation. But yes, let's keep using them as the punchline for a joke. Wasn't it based on a Lola chassis tested by Allan McNish in '93? Yes that chassis that McNish tested, it was 1995 though https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_T95/30 The 1993 chassis was run by Scuderia Italia during the 93 F1 season with that awful Chesterfield livery, and wasn't very good. Must be why I was thinking it was '93 then. Lola were a very good contructor, it's just a shame they never had the same success in F1. Just a pole and a single podium. |
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