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Author:  StefMeister [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Sky sports will have a Freeview this weekend from 6am Friday morning so anyone with Sky or Virgin media will be able to watch Sky Sports F1 for free:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... ee-weekend

Author:  Peter [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:57 am ]
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ellis wrote:
DRS doesn't have to produce passes. It can be used to close the gap. Why not put it between T1 and T2 to close the cars up and give them a chance at a natural pass into the hairpin?


That is exactly what I thought.

Author:  Tobias [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:47 pm ]
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McLaren brings updates

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Author:  Fabs [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:58 pm ]
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Tomorrow : RAIN
Saturday: dry
Sunday: dry

that is all

Author:  Bleu [ Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:17 pm ]
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Didn't think that earlier, but this will be Lewis Hamilton's 100th GP.

Author:  StefMeister [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:37 am ]
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FOM apparently have a treat in store for us this weekend, No hint as to what it may be.

Author:  codename_47 [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:53 am ]
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I'm also tired about the DRS whining in thread after thread.

I feel F1 is so competitive this year because KERS, DRS, and Pirelli have combined to provide the action, making different cars quicker at different times, which is exactly what you need for great racing.

When it comes to the credit for the great racing we're seeing, Pirelli seems to take all of the praise and DRS is targeted for all the criticism.

KERS seems to be getting off scot free atm. Good, because it took its fair share of flak in 2009 and I'm glad its there to give the defending driver a weapon, etc.

If DRS is the magic free pass that everyone thinks, how come Hamilton (on older tyres) was able to drag past Alonso on the Wellington straight, after Alonso had already used his superior grip to get by the Mclaren before the DRS activation point?
Opening the wing didn't stop Lewis from getting past then...

As I've said many times, I'd rather defend DRS (and KERS, and Pirelli) than boring racing, and ALL THREE elements are why we have the great racing we're seeing this year.
All of this is 100 times better than the refuelling, pit stop parades we were "enjoying" in the last decade, so can we please just slightly ease down on DRS bitching...a bit, please?

Author:  ellis [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:17 am ]
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codename_47 wrote:
I'm also tired about the DRS whining in thread after thread.


Yet it's ok to fill IndyCar threads with the same complaints every week. You can't have it both ways.

Author:  codename_47 [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:14 am ]
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Ouch.....ya got me

Maybe I should round off my argument with a "Y U NO..." then that'll be the full house....people love that.

*slinks out of thread yelling "DRS RULEZZZZZ!"*

Author:  Lucasjeha [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:20 am ]
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codename_47 wrote:
I'm also tired about the DRS whining in thread after thread.

I feel F1 is so competitive this year because KERS, DRS, and Pirelli have combined to provide the action, making different cars quicker at different times, which is exactly what you need for great racing.

When it comes to the credit for the great racing we're seeing, Pirelli seems to take all of the praise and DRS is targeted for all the criticism.

KERS seems to be getting off scot free atm. Good, because it took its fair share of flak in 2009 and I'm glad its there to give the defending driver a weapon, etc.

If DRS is the magic free pass that everyone thinks, how come Hamilton (on older tyres) was able to drag past Alonso on the Wellington straight, after Alonso had already used his superior grip to get by the Mclaren before the DRS activation point?
Opening the wing didn't stop Lewis from getting past then...

As I've said many times, I'd rather defend DRS (and KERS, and Pirelli) than boring racing, and ALL THREE elements are why we have the great racing we're seeing this year.
All of this is 100 times better than the refuelling, pit stop parades we were "enjoying" in the last decade, so can we please just slightly ease down on DRS bitching...a bit, please?


I understand you. Some years ago, races were just about how faster can you go, positions earned only in pitstop strategy and almost no overtakes at all. Now the driver has many things to think about, the tyre wear, the DRS, the KERS, there is no more refuelling, it made the races so much better even in tracks we could never imagine, like Valencia. We are not in the 80's anymore, back there we had fantastic races, with fantastic drivers without the need of DRS or KERS, but we had many difference when it came to the engines and the cars would fail so much more, it was a different F1 that no longer exists, unfortunatelly. So after all, I'm very happy with what we have right now, its so much better than the last 10 years (at least) were.

Author:  scarsurfing [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:40 am ]
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Lewis used the draft and probably alot of Kers to get Alonso there and skill. The problem with drs is it just looks too easy sometimes, i think its getting better and the races have been good but Webber passing Alonso there was pretty easy, maybe use drs on a shorter straight or a smaller slot in the wing.

Author:  alex1369 [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:59 am ]
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Ah DRS here or there.... we wanted good races - we got them.
- and still pepole keep bitching, im happy to see action on the track. DRS is good, you can close the gap, while 4 years ago or mor you would ge stuck behind the car...

Author:  krag [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:56 am ]
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Just woke up at the hotel, it's wet :)

Author:  Omega [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:54 am ]
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krag wrote:
Just woke up at the hotel, it's wet :)

If I had wet my bed last night, I wouldn't tell it on an autosportforum

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:07 am ]
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Considering it will rain soon surely the teams would be rushing out to get dry running done

Author:  aerogi [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:21 am ]
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Judging the radar, it looks it might rain for quite some time today.

Author:  Joni [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:30 am ]
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Bottas crash but not that big and right at the end of the sessions so not much harm there i think.

Author:  sebbl [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:42 am ]
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FP1 already over... McLaren's in front.

Author:  Mika Kimi [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:15 pm ]
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Any more pictures of the McLaren update? I find them surprisingly hard to find 8O

And does McLaren have a different sponsor/sponsorname on the rear wing for this GP?

Author:  Tobias [ Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:18 pm ]
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yes, rumours are the energy drink no longer wants to participate as a draft agreement has been reached with rival Coca Cola.

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