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If Maldonado does not stop driving like an idiot. He will continue to cause such "racing incidents". It is not just GB race or Valencia there are numerous others. And, it does not matter what you call it; it is who makes those errors actually matters. If it is Kimi for example, then that's OK, but it's Maldonado, then it's not OK.

Does anybody have a high-res picture of that podium or the podium-ceremony with all the autographes/signatures on the sides?

Thanks a lot!

If it was a one-off, I'd agree. But it's not, hence the continuous conversation. He's got form through 2011 and 2012.

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Actually reminds me more of Montoya/Schumacher Malaysia 2002 and how the first ever drive through penalty was a disgrace in that they penalised the wrong driver.

Reminded me of Fisi and Webber coming together in Sepang 2005 when Mark was on course for his first podium, Fisi lost it on the inside but somehow the commentators managed to give Webber some of the blame.

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Fisichellas tyres were finished and he just had no rear grip and oversteered straight into Webber

In some shady cases, it's the action of the outside driver that causes the inside driver mistake, by squeezing him too much on entry or scaring him during braking.

Well yes, I can understand why. In this particular case Webber swept over and didn't give Fisi much room at all. Mark's logic was that Fisi shouldn't have been fighting for position. So in that case Mark should have been a little more circumspect, allowed Fisi a bit more room and undercut him on the corner exit.

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No driver deserved a penalty back then. It was silly enough that Montoya received one.

I remember the digital TV commentators were outraged by that decision and they kept sarcastically asking for investigations for each of the many incidents that happened later in that race.
Little did we know it would become routine like it is now.

Didn't Michael just completely drive into the side of Montoya? I don't think i've ever seen the trackside angle but the onboard looks like he just understeers into the side of Montoya.

That's pretty much what happened.

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Yeah, and it's not like JPM didn't give him any room either, Micheal just fucked up and as a result Montoya got penalised.
Will never see the logic in that one.

Then in the next race Micheal throws 2 blocks down the back straight knocking off JPMs front wing and gets nothing.

I'm not usually one for the conspiracy theories but either the stewards really had a thing against Frank Williams or they were just in love with Micheal back then.

Oh well, we may bitch but things are as distractingly hypocritical as they were back then, be thankful for that at least

Schumacher also blocked Alonso to the grass coming down to Stowe in 2003

Worst given penalty I've encountered is the one for Alonso in Monza '06, for "blocking" Massa during qualifying.

Guess the FIA wanted Schumacher to win that race, since he would anounce his retirement that Sunday.

We're digressing here. Blocking in a straight (Stowe 2003 and Brazil 2002) is a completely different thing. It's a voluntary action while being perfectly in control of the car.

Schumacher also completely missed his braking point in Austria in 2002 and brought Montoya with him in the gravel trap

It was 2001 and it was completely the other way around. I've never seen any quality driver with reasonable race craft making such an amazingly dumb late diving bomb move. He late braked himself way off, going straight and very deep into the gravel.

Except that is still wrong. Montoya was leading the race and suffering from tyre issues, I believe they were going through their standard graining phase, and he was fighting a rear guard attack from Schumi, Barrichello, Verstappen and a couple of others. During the incident in question Montoya was holding the inside line and Schumacher tried to overtake on the outside, but tried squeezing Montoya mid-braking zone. That unsettled Montoya who was already braking at the limit and both cars slowly went towards the gravel.

Montoya didn't do a late diving bomb move. In fact, Schumi did. A racing incident, 50/50.

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Yeah, the Michelin graining phase, guaranteeing at least 3 laps of action during even the dullest of races!

I was less happy about the Schumey edging people on to the grass stuff (Silverstone 2003 as stated above, think Jaques had a go on Button during the same race too) as its just blatent poor manners to push someone who is already at least partway if not fully side by side with you onto the grass, and you're only bringing on your own accident as you spear across his front nose when he doesn't back off.

I think that's what the FIA are getting at with their recent "clarification" of overtaking rules even if they're once again clumsily labelled.

And yeah, the Monza penalty was a complete load of shite too, if anything Massa benefited from a tow from Alonso down the straight rather than was bothered by the Renault in the corner.

yup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmerS6jr9v8