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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:04 am 
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I don't think we'll see Rich Energy anywhere near F1 again.


But who's the next to scam Haas? That's the real question. World is full of start ups that can convince people to invest on them.


I'm not sure it was HAAS that got scammed, didn't they get something like $30Million paid up front from Storey and another cheque later in the year? Pretty sure it was either Storey being scammed or his "investors" getting the short end of the stick.

I still think this guy is related to the Storey property empire and has probably just sold a couple castles to fund this f1 jolly and created Rich Energy to do it through.



2019 would be around 12-15m and Haas had at least 1 installment of 6m.


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There doesn't seem to be many people discussing this yet: qualifying races next year apparently approved?

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And it's the third of a race distance. I think this too much for just defining grid order.

Also, putting these cars to drive for more 100 km each race when this equipment has to last for more than a trip to the moon makes no sense. I can see cars retiring from this race easily as the reward is very small for such a big risk and effort.


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these qualifying races will be boring as teams will tell drivers to cruise to save equipment. If they had a different engine/gearbox for these races then the outcome could be interesting

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Will be more of a farce than Monza Q3. Unless there's points on offer. Then it'll be almost as big a farce.


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They buried the lead in there that refueling isn't coming back, so that's good news at least

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Just as gimmicky as NASCAR now. Might as well add the Chase too. :(

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LucasWheldon wrote:
these qualifying races will be boring as teams will tell drivers to cruise to save equipment. If they had a different engine/gearbox for these races then the outcome could be interesting


Yeah, I think there's an expectation from within the paddock that these races will automatically be more exciting because drivers would be more aggressive, whereas in reality, that's never what happens - they tend to be more conservative. But I'm not against the idea as long as they get the format right


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race direction should force drivers to be more daring. Issuing several penalties for not going fast enough

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Just accept defeat and copy the vastly superior Moto GP format. The fastest 10 from free practice get into Q2 (brings actual relevance to free practice) and the top two from Q1 go into Q2.....oh but right.....F1 own goal cause of the 3 engines for the entire season thing.

Which can be solved by simply having a separate practice/qualifying and a race engine. You get your 3 race engines and 1 qualy engine.


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I'm all for qualifying races, starting order of the qualifying races is dictated by the standings, but in reverse.

There you go, I've solved F1. You're welcome.


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A report in AMuS suggests that Zandvoort are going to knock down the old last corner and replace it with something much like the original Peraltada with significant banking and a soft wall right at the edge of the track. Because of the banking, the corner is expected to be full throttle.

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Won't happen. Too un-Tilke like for F1's approval


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you mean fia, not Tilke


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Chain Bear F1 did a video that neatly sums up Tilke. Yes the FIA have a set of guide lines but Tilke keeps building essentially the same track each time. So yes, the blandness is Tilke's fault.

Oh, expect them halfway through re doing the new corner to adjust it for 'better flow'......meaning they will do a Fuji and chuck in a chincane just before it and tighten the corner up.


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It'll look like that final sector at Mexico

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Chain Bear F1 did a video that neatly sums up Tilke. Yes the FIA have a set of guide lines but Tilke keeps building essentially the same track each time. So yes, the blandness is Tilke's fault.


More precisely, the blandness comes from the fact FIA only picks Tilke to design the tracks, and anyone's creativity has a limit. Tilke's creative juice has gone a long time ago.


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exactly.

Tilke can provide good tracks, people seem to forget about sepang or istanbul or his none f1 tracks like aragon.


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I tend to come at it from the angle that most new tracks are bland because they have no history attached to them. In the Lap of the Gods video, Murray Walker says the old Hockenheim was boring and Suzuka wasn't a great circuit. Most people hated the Hungaroring and the new Nurburgring when they were built. Even the A1-Ring had its critics. A lot of the "character" in circuits develops over time as more races happen there, until it sticks around long enough for people to get nostalgic about it

Plus, a lot of circuit design that's good or bad doesn't appear just by looking at a map. It comes from elevation changes, the location, the size of run-off area and the local climate. Istanbul in theory was a good track, in terms of the layout, but I never really warmed to it because of the car park-sized run-off on the outside of every corner. By contrast, Montreal doesn't have an interesting track layout - no one would draw a track like that from scratch - but it has an abrasive surface and concrete walls next to the racing line so it produces great races

The question is, would you miss this track in 2 or 3 years' time if it dropped off the calendar? I don't miss most of the circuits that have dropped off in the last 10 years. It's a real shame we're not going to have a race in Germany, though, at either of the circuits. Of the current circuits, I definitely wouldn't miss Sochi or Austin, and probably not Shanghai or Abu Dhabi either. I'd take losing Catalunya if it meant moving the Spanish GP back to Jerez


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Good point on the heritage the circuits get with the time. See Baku, it was one of the most hated tracks from its conception to the first F1 race there (which was an utterly boring one, which happened right after one of the most dramatic moments of motorsport ever). Then we had two crazy races there and the track got some history overnight and the races there got more anticipated.


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