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| Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
pimmy wrote: TBH you don't need much more than that, F1 has too much practice. Fill the rest of the schedule with support series. I'm glad someone else thinks this. F1 could go to a two-day event. Most F1 practices have that 20-30 minute dull patch after their install laps where they do nothing anyway. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
They don't give them enough tyres to allow for more running anyway, so unless Pirelli, or the incoming bridgestone, increase the allocation (ie, spend more money) then might as well run bare minimum and hope the lack of data makes the racing better on Sunday. Shit's really gonna hit the fan when Bridgestone try to conserve even more tyres and won't even make short range softer tyres like Pirelli do so there'll be little strategy element in the races.... Good luck Marketing that, Liberty... 
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
Unless I'm missing something, Pirelli were recently given the contract to continue until the end of 2027 |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
Schumifan wrote: Unless I'm missing something, Pirelli were recently given the contract to continue until the end of 2027 What I read was they made it clear this was their final go around and the only reason Bridgestone didn't bid is they didn't want to have to make new F1 spec tyres for 2025 and then again for the new regs in 2026 which would make it not as cost effective as just coming in earlier in a regulation cycle Pirelli are out after 2027 and no-one else really wants it, so 2028 is Bridgestones for the taking it seems. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
codename_47 wrote: Schumifan wrote: Unless I'm missing something, Pirelli were recently given the contract to continue until the end of 2027 What I read was they made it clear this was their final go around and the only reason Bridgestone didn't bid is they didn't want to have to make new F1 spec tyres for 2025 and then again for the new regs in 2026 which would make it not as cost effective as just coming in earlier in a regulation cycle Pirelli are out after 2027 and no-one else really wants it, so 2028 is Bridgestones for the taking it seems. I'm of the school that says good riddance Pirelli. I was a supporter of them at the start, but after a decade of terrible tyres it has become clear that they just don't have the technical ability to make good tyres and hide behind the "they are only making them to spec" argument. People forget that their tyres in the late 80's and early 90's were crap as well and couldn't last more than a few laps. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
funny because the sole 80's victories for Pirelli were based on lasting longer. But they were racing against Goodyears, which at the time were far from being gold standard |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:32 pm ] |
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Can't wait for 2029 when everyone will complain about boring races and blame Bridgestone for their rock solid tyres asking for a new supplier with "less durable tyres". |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
Schumifan wrote: MotoKris1 wrote: I remember when I was at Berlin E-Prix this year, it was so annoyed that there was only FE cars on track. I didn't know what to do for most of the time... I want to go for some Blancpain / Italian GT-F4 events, there's ton of racing all day long I had the same experience at the London E-Prix. 3 hours between qualifying and the race with absolutely nothing to see. And more expensive than BTCC which is wall to wall racing all day. Top reason I miss the Paris e-prix. It's in the dead-center of the city, so between sessions you can just go for a walk, to a fancy restaurant, etc... and it's even better than normal days since most streets around the track are closed to car traffic. I still have no clue why it wasn't reconducted after the pandemic, it was becoming sold-out and ticket prices had actually doubled for "action" zones. But yeah, for regular racing week-ends, I want my chest to rumble all day long please thanks |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:45 am ] |
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Take this with a bucket load of salt but I heard ePrix would have very low if but nothing sanctioning fees for the first few races then skyrocket them if the event became popular, plus I think there was an element of buyers remorse when it becomes clear just how “carbon nuteral” it all really is and the only way they achieve that is buying bucket loads of carbon credits on some make believe market thing similar to ESG scoring. |
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| Author: | micha [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:10 pm ] |
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Predictions are 4C/40F temperatures in Las Vegas  Could be very difficult to get the tyres up to temperature |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
I'd second that with a worn street tarmac of the strip and you get cars running with 80% throttle max on straights |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:01 pm ] |
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LucasWheldon wrote: I'd second that with a worn street tarmac of the strip and you get cars running with 80% throttle max on straights It'll be like that video of Tony Kanaan at Sao Paulo in 2010 with no grip on the straight  The video has been deleted but there is this one  |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:25 am ] |
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Qualifying is at midnight local time? That can't be a typo can it? That is just ridiculous. |
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| Author: | FiatFan83 [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
webbsy wrote: Qualifying is at midnight local time? That can't be a typo can it? That is just ridiculous. That can't be, it'll be 3AM local time on the east coast of the US. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | FiatFan83 [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
FiatFan83 wrote: webbsy wrote: Qualifying is at midnight local time? That can't be a typo can it? That is just ridiculous. That can't be, it'll be 3AM local time on the east coast of the US. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk    Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk |
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| Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
The race is 5pm Australian time on Sunday so we're super chuffed with the race time If there's any TBK'ers in Melbourne, a few of my friends who have a podcast will get together and watch the race at a pub in Richmond. All are welcome to tag along. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
FiatFan83 wrote: FiatFan83 wrote: webbsy wrote: Qualifying is at midnight local time? That can't be a typo can it? That is just ridiculous. That can't be, it'll be 3AM local time on the east coast of the US. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk I live in Tokyo so all the America's races are at 2-3 am here. You live in the same country yet have a 1 am race start. That is just nuts. Even all the European races are at 10 - 11 pm for me. |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2023 Formula One Random Discussion Thread |
peterohanrahanrahan wrote: The race is 5pm Australian time on Sunday so we're super chuffed with the race time If there's any TBK'ers in Melbourne, a few of my friends who have a podcast will get together and watch the race at a pub in Richmond. All are welcome to tag along. You guys have enough material to talk through this potential farce? |
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| Author: | Soul Reaver [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 10:45 am ] |
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Glad I have F1 TV to watch when I wake-up spoiler free. |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:23 am ] |
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Haha, it's actually more convenient for central European time than it is for most the US, 7AM start on Sunday morning here. I like morning races, breakfast with the race then be done with F1 and get on with your day. micha wrote: Predictions are 4C/40F temperatures in Las Vegas Could be very difficult to get the tyres up to temperature One of the instances where holding a night race is counter-productive, unlike in the Persian gulf. Are we up for an all-time low then? Someone here stated Montreal 1978 was the worst on record with what, 5°C? Maybe they'll run intermediates on a dry track 
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