Scotty wrote:
FiatFan83 wrote:
I can tell you're a misguided lefty. We're shitting up this thread with politics though, so I'm leaving it at that.
Keep this going it's got that TBK 2006-era vibe to it where shit fights get started for no reason and three people get banned for a week (usually me)
I'm too old for that shit now.
kals wrote:
RtN wrote:
I'm afraid I don't quite follow. If you think I am happy with Bernie's behaviour over the years, I am not (bringing Spa back on a sweetheart deal excepted). I would have preferred for F1 to stay out of China and Bahrain and Russia and so on (and maybe you could even throw Singapore in there as well). But it happened, and the reasons were never hidden. It doesn't justify the path that was taken, but I always prefer honesty, even when it's a truth that's not particularly pleasant.
I appreciate the clarification as that wasn't clear beforehand. But you're still saying you preferred Bernie's method over Liberty. That's hypocritical. Whereas both methods should be condemned, there shouldn't be a preference. Considering the subject matter honesty shouldn't even be a point of discussion.
I accepted the general direction of the sport regarding new venues a long time ago. Don't like it, but I accept it. I don't see the issue with preferring honesty over duplicity. It makes it much easier to make a personal judgement on whether the sport is worth my custom.
As a wrestling fan, I've seen this story play out once already. MBS wants western circuses to a) keep the population happy and b) to try and give himself and his father's government a veneer of respectibility and the impression that they are making progress, which ties back into a). Western circuses are lured in both with money and the idea that they are contributing to this liberalisation of the country (Vision 2030). They put on their show and then they realise that they've been had when they are left looking like advocates for the regime's worst excesses, but by that point the money alone might be too good to turn down.
I would be interested to see, if this race is agreed, and Liberty win the concessions they have asked for regarding women staff, what their response would be if those concessions are rolled back when the race comes around.
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