not that I want to extract old cows from the ditch, but I was watching the review of the 2010 Belgian GP yesterday. The incident of Vettel crashing into Button was, I seem to recall, completely deemed to be Vettel's fault. But I thought there was some last-gasp movement of Jenson forcing Vettel to steer away and lose it over a damp patch. Maybe not really Vettel's fault afteral?

I haven't seen the incident since the race, so I might be wrong here, but at the time I certainly felt some sympathy for Vettel. He got such a run on Button, and clearly wanted to go up the inside. Button I thought made a move towards the inside quite late, just before they hit the brakes, so Vettel had to suddenly jink the outside to avoid a big accident, and lost control. That's how I saw it anyway.

I don't want to DRAG old cows OUT OF the ditch but Spa 1998, obviously DC's fault.

DC managed to take out 13 cars in one day, 15 if you include the fact he took himself out twice. Must be a record.

Maldonado has been notified.

Back in the day McLaren and DC said that he got a push from behind. They weren't sure by whom, because of spray blocked the view, but they were quite sure it was Irvine who hit DC's rear right corner, causing him to spin in to the wall.

Back in the day McLaren and DC said that he got a push from behind. They weren't sure by whom, because of spray blocked the view, but they were quite sure it was Irvine who hit DC's rear right corner, causing him to spin in to the wall.

FACT - DC slowed up too much to allow Schumi through, Schumi was blinded in the spray couldn't anticipate DC's actions
FACT - Button held the inside line and Vettel tried a move too late in the braking zone thus loosing control