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"After Dan's tragedy, INDYCAR told us there would be no more pack racing,’’ said Kanaan, referring to the death of his former teammate and two-time Indy 500 winner Dan Wheldon in the season finale at the 1.5-mile Las Vegas oval.

"I can tell you after the test that there’s going to be pack racing with this aero package unless the downforce is reduced. But we’re hoping that INDYCAR can make some changes before we go back as a group and test again at Texas.

Texas and Las Vegas have the support posts of their fences in different places than most oval tracks.

Kanaan added: "We think the other type of fencing works better but if we don’t have pack racing then the fence isn’t as big an issue.’’

Guess you missed the bit where I said cars had already got up into the fences at those tracks.

Fontana - ok Dario didn't hit the fence, but by more luck + wind direction than anything else.
New Hampshire - Back when it was the IRL someone flipped out of turn 2 and rode along the fence for a bit.
Richmond - Castroneves (I think) destroyed the start gantry and some fencing in a tyre test there a few years ago.

Let's not forget every major accident at Indy in the past 10 years, a single groove track where they rarely go through the corners side by side, let alone 3 wide.

My point is, those types of accidents can, do and will happen anywhere - I saw a Formula Ford clear 10 meter high debris fence, an Ambulance, a PUB, a wall and land in the paddock at Donnington a many years ago, they are focusing too much on the cookie cutters and blaming the tracks rather than the real reasons, who was it that said when you start obsessing about how dangerous racing is it's time to retire?

Big difference between a series where those type of crashes are rare and a series that specifically mandates pack racing that makes that type of crash highly likely and a rules package which accentuates the flying problem.

The pack racing and flying car phenomenon has gone on for far too long and it took Wheldon's death for them to wake up and realise things don't have to be this way.

Indycar promised the new car would fix these problems but it seems the extent of their knowledge is slapping wheel guards on the rear wheels and crossing their fingers that they get lucky again.

Good on the drivers for standing up to them, sadly far too late but better late than never.

Indycar: either sort out your pack racing deathtraps or stay off high banked ovals.

Again though, you're all missing my point, eliminating pack racing, and at an extreme stopping racing on the 1.5mile ovals, is not going to magically stop the cars flying.

Indycar said the design of the new car would go some way to addressing the launch off the back of another car (or flying by themselves when they spin), and hopefully overall be a safer car. I don't ever remember Indycar saying it would eliminate pack racing, or promising it would stop the cars taking off, there's a big difference.

Again though, you're all missing my point, eliminating pack racing, and at an extreme stopping racing on the 1.5mile ovals, is not going to magically stop the cars flying.

Guess you missed the bit where I said cars had already got up into the fences at those tracks.
Fontana - ok Dario didn't hit the fence, but by more luck + wind direction than anything else.