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Author:  StefMeister [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 2:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/in ... 51513530/1

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LAS VEGAS (AP) – Track owner Bruton Smith said Wednesday he expects the IndyCar Series to honor its contract with Las Vegas Motor Speedway and return to the track in 2012.

Smith, owner of Speedway Motorsports Inc., has two years remaining on his contract to hold the IndyCar season finale at Las Vegas. IndyCar CEO Randy Bernard has yet to announce the 2012 schedule, and is awaiting the results of the investigation into Dan Wheldon's fatal accident at Las Vegas to decide if the series can continue to run on high-banked ovals.

"We have two years left on that contract and I expect Randy to honor it," said Smith, who leased the property to IndyCar in a three-year contract.

Smith also said he wants IndyCar back at Texas Motor Speedway, one of the most popular venues in the series. IndyCar has not completed its sanctioning agreement with Texas, and potentially could drop both Las Vegas and Texas from the schedule over concerns of racing on high-banked ovals.

At a NASCAR event in downtown Las Vegas, Smith was critical of Bernard's indecision and called on the CEO to honor his agreements with Speedway Motorsports Inc.

"I like Randy a lot, but he listens to too many people," Smith said. "He's listening to people who don't know a damn thing about speedways and there's no reason in the world he should not be back at Las Vegas and Texas next year."

Wheldon, a two-time Indianapolis 500 winner, was killed in the Oct. 16 season finale at Las Vegas in a fiery 15-car accident.

Since the accident, critics have complained IndyCar is not suited for high-banked ovals and there have been calls for the series to abandon the tracks. The Las Vegas race has been scrutinized over the high speeds, the crowded 34-car field and a varied experience level on ovals among the drivers as contributors to the accident.

Now Texas has fallen under scrutiny, even though the facility has hosted a race every year since 1997. The track last season split its 500-mile race into a pair of 250-milers in a trumpeted twinbill.

"There's never been a problem at Texas. Never, ever, ever," Smith said. "I have no idea why all of a sudden Texas would be considered not suitable for IndyCar."

Meanwhile, Smith said he has verbally requested a second race at Las Vegas from NASCAR chairman Brian France and plans to put it in writing for the 2013 season. Smith has long wanted two races for Las Vegas, and has called on NASCAR to move its season finale from Homestead-Miami Speedway to his property.

"It would be for the good of the sport for the season to end at Las Vegas and everybody knows that," Smith said. "Everybody wants to be in Las Vegas. That's not a secret to anyone and NASCAR should do the right thing and move that finale here."

Smith successfully lobbied NASCAR to move its season-ending awards ceremony from New York to Las Vegas three years ago, and LVMS officials hosted Wednesday's event — a version of "The Newlywed Game" with host Bob Eubanks and the 12 Chase drivers — in downtown Las Vegas.

The awards ceremony is Friday night at the Wynn Las Vegas Resort.

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Bruton Smith is an asshole...but we already know that.

Author:  smokyburnout [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

StefMeister wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/indycar/story/2011-11-30/Las-Vegas-track-owner-expects-IndyCar-to-return/51513530/1

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"There's never been a problem at Texas. Never, ever, ever," Smith said.

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Hello, Bruton!

Author:  Shane [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

CART did so well in telling Smith to F off. I doubt IndyCar 2 plans on doing it.

Author:  smokyburnout [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Newman/Haas isn't dead yet, rumored to be looking at LMP2.
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-newman-haas-moving-ahead-with-streamlined-operation/

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

That's good to hear.

Author:  Juihi [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

yay, as long as they around in some form or another

Author:  Mäth [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:06 am ]
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:mrbean: Why isn't CART still alive as it was in 2002 ?

[youtubeidiot]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UDWrLKucas[/youtubeidiot]

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Owners are assholes.

Author:  ellis [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Because when you let teams run things, they don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. It's why governing bodies should not include too much team input.

Author:  electrodevo [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:56 pm ]
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"There's never been a problem at Texas. Never, ever, ever," Smith said.


Never, ever, ever.


Author:  Alonsomania [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:24 pm ]
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electrodevo wrote:
Quote:
"There's never been a problem at Texas. Never, ever, ever," Smith said.


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Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Hmm...that race was supposed to take place after the premiere of Driven. THAT CAN'T BE COINCIDENCE

Author:  Chris A [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:52 pm ]
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electrodevo wrote:
Quote:
"There's never been a problem at Texas. Never, ever, ever," Smith said.


Never, ever, ever.



Let's be fair, that was not a Texas Motor Speedway problem. That was all a matter of CART not doing all their homework regarding the speed and forces the cars generated.

Author:  Gabriel [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:59 pm ]
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Tommy Vercetti wrote:
Hmm...that race was supposed to take place after the premiere of Driven. THAT CAN'T BE COINCIDENCE


Lmao. We would now be all "Driven is the most realistic motorsport-related film of all time".

Author:  Cheeveer [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Driven: the main reason why CART died.

Author:  codename_47 [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

If Bruton Smith intends to hold them to the letter of their contract I hope they turn up and run the road course instead of risking people's lives just cos one guy is an arsehole

Author:  electrodevo [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Chris A wrote:
Let's be fair, that was not a Texas Motor Speedway problem. That was all a matter of CART not doing all their homework regarding the speed and forces the cars generated.


No, it's not a TMS problem per se, but it's a perfect example of how these 1.5 mile banked tracks become unsuitable at a certain speed. CART performed test sessions, but they were only trapping 225 max at that time, which is only a touch faster than the IRL events. I think no one, CART media or anyone else, really knew that the cars would hit 233-235 when they actually got there, and I'm not sure anyone really comprehended that G-force induced blackouts would start occurring with just a few mph of speed difference.

There sure was a lot of finger pointing after the fact, though. Though I think CART made the right decision.

Burton Smith is the last person I would listen to regarding the safety of open wheel formula cars on high speed ovals.

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 7:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

Gabriel wrote:
Tommy Vercetti wrote:
Hmm...that race was supposed to take place after the premiere of Driven. THAT CAN'T BE COINCIDENCE


Lmao. We would now be all "Driven is the most realistic motorsport-related film of all time".


Apart from people not dying after Michael Bay-induced crashes.

Author:  Shane [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | Barnhart fired - Newman/Haas gone

He was supposed to direct the sequel.

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