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Author:  JB-F1 [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  2013 Formula 3 Discussion
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Races
1 16 May Hockenheim
2 17 May Hockenheim
3 30 May Lausitzring
4 31 May Lausitzring
5 27 Jun Norisring
6 28 Jun Norisring
7 18 Jul Zandvoort
8 19 Jul Zandvoort
9 1 Aug Oschersleben
10 2 Aug Oschersleben
11 15 Aug Nurburgring
12 16 Aug Nurburgring
13 5 Sep Brands Hatch
14 6 Sep Brands Hatch
15 19 Sep Catalunya
16 20 Sep Catalunya
17 10 Oct Dijon
18 11 Oct Dijon
19 24 Oct Hockenheim
20 25 Oct Hockenheim

Confirmed Drivers

ART (Merc)
Esteban Gutierrez (R)
Jules Bianchi
Adrien Tambay (R)
Valtteri Bottas (R)

Prema Powerteam (Merc)
Stefano Coletti
Basil Shaaban

Mucke (Merc)
Alexander Sims (R)
Sam Bird
Marco Wittman (R)

Carlin (VW)
Brendon Hartley

Signature-Plus (VW)
Mika Maki

Manor (Merc)
Cesar Ramos (R)

Other teams
SG (Merc)
Jo Zeller (Merc)
RC (Merc)
HBR (Merc)
Motopark (Merc)
Kolles & Heinz (VW)

Roll of Honour
2003 - Ryan Briscoe
2004 - Jamie Green
2005 - Lewis Hamilton
2006 - Paul di Resta
2007 - Romain Grosjean
2008 - Nico Hulkenberg

Wikipedia wrote:
The modern-day Formula Three Euroseries was inaugurated in 2003 in a collaboration between two of Europe's national governing bodies for motorsport – the Fédération Française du Sport Automobile (FFSA) in France and the Deutscher Motor Sport Bund (DMSB) in Germany.

The new partnership between the FFSA and DMSB spelled the end of national Formula Three in France with the closure of the French F3 Championship, but Germany's national championship was effectively supplanted by the creation of the Recaro Formel 3 Cup, though the DMSB initially attempted to block its creation. This lower-status series was formed by ADAC, the F3V (Germany's Formula Three Association) and a few key German teams (such as Bertram Schäfer Racing) that chose not to participate in the new Euroseries. BSR's owner Bertram Schäfer acts as the series' promoter.

The FFSA and DMSB hold joint responsibility for determining the sporting regulations of the Euroseries. The organisation and promotion of the championship is handled by ITR, which performs the same rôle for the DTM touring car championship.
Author:  noikeee [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Mika Maki is staying? That's interesting. Another likely championship contender then.
Author:  JB-F1 [ Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Yeah, he dropped out of GP2 Asia to concentrate on winning F3. According to his Wiki page, he'll be joining Signature, although the 2009 F3E page hasn't confirmed it
Author:  Rudy88 [ Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Shaaban to Prema? $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Author:  Fish88 [ Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Not really Euroseries news but F3 news in general. The Masters of Formula 3 will return back to Zandvoort on 13-14 June (Because of Zandvoort A1GP race will move on to begin 2010).

http://www.autosport.nl/actueel/news.ph ... ubriek=nat
Author:  eurog91 [ Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
http://www.bottasvaltteri.com/en/news/?a=viewItem&itemid=89
Interesting piece of news on Bottas' homepage on how testing's gone for him so far. Blimey, if he's able to show that kinda pace during the season, then he might well be within a chance of clinching the title in his first year of F3.
He used to be my teammate in LFS, although he hasn't shown up for more than a year now. Probably too busy I'd imagine. ;)
Author:  SFM [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Jake Rosenzweig joins Carlin

italiraing.net wrote:
Jake Rosenzweig joins Carlin

American racer Jake Rosenzweig has signed with Carlin Motorsport for the 2009 F3 Euro Series championship. The 19 year-old former Formula Renault 2.0 Eurocup driver will race with the British squad alongside Red Bull’s Brendon Hartley. Rosenzweig’s signing with Carlin follows an impressive F3 test with the team, where the young American matched the times of Carlin’s British F3 drivers at the Valencia circuit in Spain in December. With the 2009 season now quickly approaching, Rosenzweig will continue his testing programme in March in the Volkswagen powered Carlin Dallara.


tbh, I've never heard of him, so I cannot really judge him.
Author:  racefan [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
SFM wrote:
Jake Rosenzweig joins Carlin

italiraing.net wrote:
Jake Rosenzweig joins Carlin

American racer Jake Rosenzweig has signed with Carlin Motorsport for the 2009 F3 Euro Series championship. The 19 year-old former Formula Renault 2.0 Eurocup driver will race with the British squad alongside Red Bull’s Brendon Hartley. Rosenzweig’s signing with Carlin follows an impressive F3 test with the team, where the young American matched the times of Carlin’s British F3 drivers at the Valencia circuit in Spain in December. With the 2009 season now quickly approaching, Rosenzweig will continue his testing programme in March in the Volkswagen powered Carlin Dallara.


tbh, I've never heard of him, so I cannot really judge him.

He drove Formula Renault Eurocup last year but wasnt very impressive (20th). But i also saw him driving at Spa with an other Formula Renault series (Italy, Swiss or so) and i believe he was with the first 3

He also was very fast during testing with F3 last year.
Author:  SFM [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
racefan wrote:
He also was very fast during testing with F3 last year.


I read that, too. Carlin said about him "He has the raw pace and talent to be an asset to the team this year and we look forward to working with him and developing him into a front-running driver".
Author:  SFM [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
HBR confirmed Kevin Mirocha and Jonny Cecotto jr. So, two rookies for the Austrian team and Shaaban will drive for Prema.
Author:  Shaddix [ Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
both drivers come from the ATS F3 German championship

a bit sad that the 2 drivers who overpaced them (Vervisch and Vanthoor) will propably NOT driver euroseries
Vanthoor has anounced he will stay in the ATS F3, Vervisch has still to anounce his future plans

it's all about money..
never the less, I rate Cecetto as a quite good drive :thumbsup:
Author:  SFM [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Am I up to date with my list?

ART Grand Prix (Villeneuve la Guyard, FRA): 4
Valtteri Bottas, Adrien Tambay, Jules Bianchi, Esteban Gutierrez

Manor Motorsport (Sheffield, UK): 4
Pedro Nunes, César Ramos, (3), (4)

Signature (Bourges, FRA): 3
Mika Mäki, (2), (3)

Mücke Motorsport (Berlin, GER): 3
Sam Bird, Marco Wittmann, Alexander Sims

Prema Powerteam (Grisignano di Zocco, ITA): 3
Stefano Coletti, Basil Shaaban, (3)

SG Formula (La Rochelle, FRA): 3
John Lancaster, Henkie Waldschmidt, Andrea Caldarelli

RC Motorsport (Lacchiarella, ITA): 3
(1), (2), (3)

Carlin Motorsport (Hampshire, UK): 2
Brendon Hartley, Jake Rosenzweig

HBR Motorsport (Brixlegg, AUT): 2
Kevin Mirocha, Jonny Cecotto jr.

Motorsport Academy (Oschersleben, GER): 2
Atte Mustonen, (2)

Kolles & Heinz Union (Trier, GER): 2
Carlo van Dam, (2)

Jo Zeller Racing (Oetwil am See, CH): 1
(1)
Author:  Shaddix [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
I can see Frederic Vervisch ending up at Jo Zeller Racing, he won the German championship with that team, an unbeatable combination in that series
Author:  racefan [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Shaddix wrote:
I can see Frederic Vervisch ending up at Jo Zeller Racing, he won the German championship with that team, an unbeatable combination in that series

Michele Faccin is also trying to get the Jo Zeller seat. I think it will be between Vervisch,Vietoris and Faccin.
Author:  Shaddix [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
I realy hope it will be Vervisch, afther winning the German and Asian F3 championship he realy needs to get higher up the ladder
if he doesn't get at the level of F2, F3 ES, GP2 or WSBR his career could take a sereous hit
F3 ES would be best choise as F2 and GP2 doesn't seem to be a possibility and he has allready driven WSBR
Author:  racefan [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Shaddix wrote:
I realy hope it will be Vervisch, afther winning the German and Asian F3 championship he realy needs to get higher up the ladder
if he doesn't get at the level of F2, F3 ES, GP2 or WSBR his career could take a sereous hit
F3 ES would be best choise as F2 and GP2 doesn't seem to be a possibility and he has allready driven WSBR

I also could see him driving for RC tbh. I dont remember why but i have him as a possibility for RC on my list xD

And the second Motopark car... who is it going to be? Not Faccin or Godinez who had a test with the team...
Author:  Shaddix [ Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
he has driven the Hockenheim season final with them last year, that's propably why ;)

RC is a posibility yes, too bad their cars don't have a good pace

Edit: for the people who speak Dutch and might be interested in Vervisch, I've written a little blog about his future: http://racinggeneration.be/blog/?p=39
Author:  Fllying_Fin [ Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
Shaddix wrote:
he has driven the Hockenheim season final with them last year, that's propably why ;)

RC is a posibility yes, too bad their cars don't have a good pace

Edit: for the people who speak Dutch and might be interested in Vervisch, I've written a little blog about his future: http://racinggeneration.be/blog/?p=39


Thanks for that. Just read a little bit on his biography, before that, I only knew him as that German/Asian F3 winner who is Belgian.
Author:  Jiipee [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
3 young and talented finns, not bad... 8)


Valtteri Bottas is said to be greatest thing since Kimi Räikkönen, who knows how much of that is true but what I've heard sounds promising, he is only real contender to F1 seat unless Mäki hits the jackpot this year since he is getting a bit old... Atte Mustonen, now there's a name I haven't heard anything of in a long time. I hope he'll deliver too. I wish there would be a stream, so I could follow since I doubt any finnish channel will show the coverage as per usual :(
Author:  Shaddix [ Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 Formula 3 Euroseries Discussion
testing at Estoril:

PM:
[spoiler]1 - Jules Bianchi (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'31"912 - 23
2 - Atte Mustonen (Dallara-Mercedes) - Motopark - 1'32"368 - 30
3 - Henki Waldschmidt (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'32"410 - 23
4 - Roberto Merhi (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'32"513 - 27
5 - Valtteri Bottas (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'32"623 - 24
6 - Alexander Sims (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'32"905 - 20
7 - Sam Bird (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'32"930 - 23
8 - Jon Lancaster (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'32"936 - 27
9 - Christian Vietoris (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'33"125 - 27
10 - Marco Wittmann (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'33"131 - 23
11 - Andrea Caldarelli (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'33"255 - 27
12 - Cesar Ramos (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'33"337 - 33
13 - Brendon Hartley (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Carlin - 1'33"353 - 15
14 - Esteban Gutierrez (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'33"558 - 25
15 - Adrien Tambay (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'33"792 - 19
16 - Kevin Mirocha (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'33"841 - 14
17 - Johnny Cecotto (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'33"890 - 28
18 - Basil Shaaban (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'34"000 - 31
19 - Matteo Chinosi (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'34"047 - 20
20 - Jake Rosenzweig (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Carlin - 1'34"051 - 31
21 - Carlo Van Dam (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Kolles&Heinz - 1'34"115 - 23
22 - Stefano Coletti (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'34"130 - 23
23 - Pedro Ferreira (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'34"174 - 25
24 - Mika Maki (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'34"208 - 27
25 - Jean Karl Vernay (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'34"253 - 22
26 - Edoardo Mortara (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Kolles&Heinz - 1'34"355 - 24
27 - Christopher Zanella (Dallara-Mercedes) - Motopark - 1'34"572 - 18
28 - Tiago Geronimi (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'34"799 - 35[/spoiler]

AM:
[spoiler]1 - Henki Waldschmidt (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'33"037 - 42
2 - Valtteri Bottas (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'33"127 - 26
3 - Brendon Hartley (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Carlin - 1'33"278 - 25
4 - Jules Bianchi (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'33"316 - 10
5 - Mika Maki (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'33"514 - 26
6 - Stefano Coletti (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'33"597 - 29
7 - Kevin Mirocha (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'33"645 - 24
8 - Andrea Caldarelli (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'33"680 - 29
9 - Sam Bird (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'33"691 - 47
10 - Esteban Gutierrez (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'33"775 - 36
11 - Jean Karl Vernay (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'33"847 - 30
12 - Christian Vietoris (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'34"165 - 44
13 - Johnny Cecotto (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'34"193 - 35
14 - Christopher Zanella (Dallara-Mercedes) - Motopark - 1'34"215 - 44
15 - Adrien Tambay (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'34"243 - 28
16 - Marco Wittmann (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke/Zeller - 1'34"245 - 23
17 - Matteo Chinosi (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'34"301 - 33
18 - Cesar Ramos (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'34"306 - 24
19 - Basil Shaaban (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'34"330 - 23
20 - Jake Rosenzweig (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Carlin - 1'34"341 - 29
21 - Alexander Sims (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'34"416 - 21
22 - Edoardo Mortara (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Kolles&Heinz - 1'34"433 - 41
23 - Roberto Merhi (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'34"502 - 23
24 - Jon Lancaster (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'34"620 - 23
25 - Tiago Geronimi (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'34"736 - 32
26 - Carlo Van Dam (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Kolles&Heinz - 1'34"988 - 27
27 - Pedro Ferreira (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'35"198 - 23
28 - Atte Mustonen (Dallara-Mercedes) - Motopark - 2'39"053 - 2[/spoiler]

combined:
[spoiler]01. Jules Bianchi (ART Grand Prix) 1:31.912
02. Atte Mustonen (Motopark Academy) 1:32.368
03. Henkie Waldschmidt (SG Formula) 1:32.410
04. Roberto Merhi (Manor Motorsport) 1:32.513
05. Valterri Bottas (ART Grand Prix) 1:32.623
06. Alexander Sims (Mücke Motorsport) 1:32.905
07. Sam Bird (Mücke Motorsport) 1:32.930
08. Jon Lancaster (SG Formula) 1:32.936
09. Christian Vietoris (Mücke Motorsport) 1:33.125
10. Marco Wittmann (Mücke Motorsport) 1:33.131
11. Andrea Caldarelli (SG Formula) 1:33.255
12. Brendon Hartley (Carlin Motorsport) 1:33.278
13. Cesar Ramos (Manor Motorsport) 1:33.337
14. Mika Mäki (Signature Plus) 1:33.514
15. Esteban Gutierrez (ART Grand Prix) 1:33.558
16. Stefano Coletti (Prema Powerteam) 1:33.597
17. Kevin Mirocha (HBR Motorsport) 1:33.646
18. Adrien Tambay (ART Grand Prix) 1:33.792
19. Jean-Karl Vernay (Signature Plus) 1:33.847
20. Johnny Cecotto (HBR Motorsport) 1:33.890
21. Basil Shaaban (Prema Powerteam) 1:34.000
22. Matteo Chinosi (Prema Powerteam) 1:34.047
23. Jake Rosenzweig (Carlin Motorsport) 1:34.051
24. Carlo Van Dam (Kolles & Heinz Union) 1:34.115
25. Pedro Ferreira (Manor Motorsport) 1:34.174
26. Christopher Zanella (Motopark Academy) 1:34.216
27. Edoardo Mortara (Kolles & Heinz Union) 1:34.355
28. Tiago Geronimi (Signature Plus) 1:34.736[/spoiler]

I hope Bianchi can try and grab that title, testing is allready promosing :thumbsup:
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