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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Emerson also had some fractures following a plane crash in 1997 |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TPourchaire/status/1467609311614488578[/tweet] |
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| Author: | VirtuaIceMan [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
[tweet]https://twitter.com/PiFitti/status/1467657280279781381[/tweet] |
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| Author: | mclaren2008 [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Coldtyre wrote: Gaara wrote: Apparently a 72G impact and leg injuries for Fittipaldi. In the Fittipaldi family, the saying "break a leg" is strictly banned. He is the third one in the family after Christian and Pietro. Emo also broke his back at Michigan in 96 |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
[tweet]https://twitter.com/enzofitti/status/1467839349614067722[/tweet] |
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| Author: | JJ [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
His face looks similar to Massa's after Hungary '09. Did some debris hit his visor and how? I thought helmets were made stronger after Massa's accident, so face injuries shouldn't be possible? |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
They were but it was 72G impact, all the forces involved so it doesn't bare thinking how much worse it would have been with the old style. It's also the flaw in the halo compared to the aeroscreen. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
perhaps his head hit the halo? |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
LucasWheldon wrote: perhaps his head hit the halo? I don't think that is possible thanks to HANS, but I guess it's very possible that something went through it. Perhaps his visor opened under that level of G-force. |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
The Hans system also means the helmet is strapped, so the head may still need to decelerate inside the helmer and cause this bruising? Anyway glad his feet are fine. and thanks to the TV direction and FIA for being such dicks about it for nothing. |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Coldtyre wrote: The Hans system also means the helmet is strapped, so the head may still need to decelerate inside the helmer and cause this bruising? Anyway glad his feet are fine. and thanks to the TV direction and FIA for being such dicks about it for nothing. If his head went forward, the helmet would accelerate at the same rate unless something interrupted it. I wonder - given that the impact was slightly off-center - if his head managed to find the side protection. |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Wed Dec 08, 2021 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
...actually, I just saw the F2 statement refer to it as a lesion, so it's very likely to be a graze (perhaps the helmet shifted slightly) or simply bruising from the G force involved. John Stapp took 30-40G negative in numerous rocket sled experiments and the most common damage was around the eyes due to how fragile the skin and circulation is around there: The only things he had to protect him was a harness, a 60s helmet, and two large cushioning objects between his legs. |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Thu Dec 09, 2021 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
gkmotorsport wrote: Coldtyre wrote: The Hans system also means the helmet is strapped, so the head may still need to decelerate inside the helmer and cause this bruising? Anyway glad his feet are fine. and thanks to the TV direction and FIA for being such dicks about it for nothing. If his head went forward, the helmet would accelerate at the same rate unless something interrupted it. I wonder - given that the impact was slightly off-center - if his head managed to find the side protection. Both would be going forward then the thing that stops the helmet are the hans straps. But your head inside would continue forward and lean against the front of the helmet. Just speculating here really |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Coldtyre wrote: gkmotorsport wrote: Coldtyre wrote: The Hans system also means the helmet is strapped, so the head may still need to decelerate inside the helmer and cause this bruising? Anyway glad his feet are fine. and thanks to the TV direction and FIA for being such dicks about it for nothing. If his head went forward, the helmet would accelerate at the same rate unless something interrupted it. I wonder - given that the impact was slightly off-center - if his head managed to find the side protection. Both would be going forward then the thing that stops the helmet are the hans straps. But your head inside would continue forward and lean against the front of the helmet. Just speculating here really Actually yeah, I didn't account for that at all. The HANS device would definitely slow the helmet slightly before the head inside it. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Thu Dec 09, 2021 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Yeah, remember how Pedro Piquet's face looked after that massive Porsche roll? The forces on the body are immense thinking about it. And Verschoor is back to stand in for Fittipaldi. https://www.autosport.com/formula2/news ... e/6863497/ |
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| Author: | MotoKris1 [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Was the first F2 race that bad? I see that it was around 2h ago |
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| Author: | LuckyStrike FAN [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
There was a little battle for the lead until Drugovich murdered his tires and both Premas slicing the field from the start, nothing more. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
Formation lap. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
we're having some 3 wides here |
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| Author: | JJ [ Sat Dec 11, 2021 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2021 Formula 2 Discussion |
How they avoided flipperz there I don't know. |
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