Rob Cregan wrote:
it was out for more than 3 laps, I was behind and saw it every lap in 2 places. Somebody could have been seriously hurt
Makes it sound as though Suranovich ignored the flag
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
That was two clear moves across the track width, what that guy did today was nothing by comparison. I'm not sure in what Kals said is an insult, it's pretty accurate really, the only similarity is both crashes happened at Monaco. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
Sorry Phil, I was trying to poke fun at you rather than come across as insulting. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
kals wrote: phil1993 wrote: Am I the only person who thinks Suranovich needs a serious bollocking here? If the car is driveable and the driver is not miles off the pace, where is the problem? You saw how quickly the others caught up to him and Daly, he was off the pace and the way he was diving meant that an accident was pretty much inevitable. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
kals wrote: phil1993 wrote: Am I the only person who thinks Suranovich needs a serious bollocking here? If the car is driveable and the driver is not miles off the pace, where is the problem? Whether it was driveable is debatable and he was certainly a long way off the pace; he had a train behind him that would make Jarno proud. He was having to brake so early for corners that it was catching Daly out, and had they restarted after the SC I would lay odds on a similar accident occurring. Fault lies with the stewards for not calling him in. He was driving a car that was so fundamentally different to the rest of the field that it was a risk. |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
How much slower was he? 5 seconds? That's the difference between the back and front of an F1 grid. You should if you don't dart around like a complete madman and It reminds me of when Alonso was hugely off the pace towards the end of Monaco 05. Heidfeld made one move and drove into the distance, Webber eventually got past, but only after moving everywhere and locked brakes etc. |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
He was a minute behind the guy ahead of him on the lap before the SC came out. I don't know what the gap was before he lost the wing. I would also say that different standards are used in F1. You would expect drivers of the calibre of Alonso and Webber to drive safely, if aggressively and robustly at the same time. I would not make those same assumptions about the GP3 field. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
RtN wrote: Fault lies with the stewards for not calling him in. He was driving a car that was so fundamentally different to the rest of the field that it was a risk. That's a fair point which can't be argued. The thing is, no-one was really all over the back of Daly so one could still argue that pace wasn't that much of an issue. I could be wrong though. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
They were all over him going into the hairpin but spread out going through the tunnel. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
Suranovich was given the black/orange the lap before; it wasn't shown on race control. And yes, Suranovich was 61s behind Visoiu when the SC was thrown. Over 11 laps, that's huge. |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
That's about the difference in speed between Schumi and Narain in qualifying today. What if Schumi finds himself battling for positions Narain tomorrow? It's not really that different. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
Rob Cregan wrote: it was out for more than 3 laps, I was behind and saw it every lap in 2 places. Somebody could have been seriously hurt Makes it sound as though Suranovich ignored the flag
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| Author: | kals [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
If that is indeed the case then that's pretty serious. |
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| Author: | Ian-S [ Sat May 26, 2012 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
Black & Orange only means pit within 3 laps, not park it immediately. Back on the previous page Phil mentioned about an age limit, maybe that is a good idea because the difference between a mature driver and someone of 16 is that the mature one knows when it's time to give up the fight. |
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| Author: | Mattzel89 [ Sat May 26, 2012 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
oh it gets better Will Buxton wrote: We may not see Suranovich for a while. I have it on impeccable authority that post race he flipped off the chief steward. No shit.
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sat May 26, 2012 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
Was just about to post that, what a complete idiot 
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| Author: | kals [ Sat May 26, 2012 8:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
I don't see an issue. When given the chance afterall, wouldn't you flip off Nigel Mansell? |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sat May 26, 2012 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
I cannot claim the moral high ground here, I did propose setting Mansell on fire in the GP thread. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sat May 26, 2012 8:38 pm ] |
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But they did say Chief Steward, not Chief Whinger. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sat May 26, 2012 8:48 pm ] |
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Mansell isn't the chief steward, just one of three Whatever you think about the accident, you can't be that much of a dick that you don't even explain yourself to the stewards and just insult them. I expect a ban for that more than the crash. As for the crash, I guess I must be the only one seeing him come towards the inside of the track while in the braking zone, which is a stupid thing to do. It reminds me of the FBMW crash from Donington in 2005, the driver in front who had Joe Osbourne fly over the top of him said he decided to block for the inside under braking and brake a bit early to get a good run out of the corner, yet somehow was surprised when a car flew over the top of him! Well duh, you blocked and braked early, Ralf Schumacher style, obviously someone is going to hit you! Same here really, without a rear wing he's obviously got to brake a lot earlier yet still weaves towards the inside in the braking zone, I can see the stewards taking a dim view on that which is probably what set him off swearing at them. Oh well, you can pretty much tell from that one race he's not F1 material so its not exactly worth losing sleep over! |
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| Author: | RtN [ Sat May 26, 2012 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: GP3 series |
Beaux Barfield says that he would have thrown the driver out of the championship for that sort of driving in general. |
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