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Author:  Philthy82 [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Ellis said it best, but comparing what NASCAR does with what indycars do is very flawed logic. One has fenders that negate most incidental impacts, the other has open wheels that almost guarantee a major wreck from the slightest rub. One has enough weight and lack of aero devices to minimise the chance of going airborne, the other reaches higher speeds and is lighter. One has a rollcage, windshield and roof protecting the driver, the other...

Really, what's so hard to understand here? No driver has implied doing away with pack racing will remove all risk, just that it will remove a major contributing factor, which I don't think anyone can argue. The risks of injury are much higher in an open-wheel, open cockpit racecar, and shoving them in a 30-deep wad consistently going 230mph with concrete and chainlink inches away is just asking for fatalities. Why opt for worse racing with the side effect of much higher risk when you can go another way?
Author:  electrodevo [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 |
Eddington mains wrote:
I'm poking Ian!
It's fuckin Racin!..
It's like boxers told they are not allowed to hit each other or Darts players playing on different boards and then seeing who got the best score!


The thing is, "pack racing" is in a sense telling boxers not to hit each other. The packs only exist because the car is compromised, horsepower wise, and has aerodynamics that make running behind someone so much more efficient (hence no one can pass). It's not really good racing, to be honest.
Author:  Ian-S [ Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 |
Eddington mains wrote:
I'm poking Ian!
It's fuckin Racin!..


Oh I agree, that's why I said if the drivers are worried about how dangerous it is, it's time for them to retire. You can take the cars off the cookie cutters, put wheel guards on them, and try eliminate the pack racing as much as they can on the safety grounds, but at the end of the day, it's racing and it's dangerous, if it was safe and easy everybody would do it.

And don't get me started again on this theory that taking the cars off the cookie cutters is going to magically stop them flying, read back a few pages for my views on that particular belief :lol:

By all means try and reduce the pack racing, it's unnecessary to manufacturer it like they do, just risking things for the sake of it, but you ain't ever gonna get rid of it totally. Boycotting a race at Texas but still agreeing to race at Fontana (like the drivers are talking about) is the most insanely stupid thing I've ever heard outside of something coming from George Osborne.
Author:  Shane [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Andretti Autosport via Facebook

Hinch
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 7305_o.jpg

RHR, no Cirlce K on the car.
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 6075_o.jpg

Marco, big empty white spots on this one.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 2513_o.jpg
Author:  chimp [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
That DHL car looks sweet 8)
Author:  Raikkon [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Image

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Author:  Chris A [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Very nice schemes there.
Author:  smokyburnout [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
The other Andretti's car has grown some DW12-inspired bodywork.
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Author:  Dan Belcher [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Chris A wrote:
Very nice schemes there.

Gotta agree. I want some Sun Drop and RC now.
Author:  Chris A [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Weird. I want to ship something and buy a polo shirt.
Author:  Dan Belcher [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Chris A wrote:
Weird. I want to ship something and buy a polo shirt.

Dude. You should ship me some Sun Drop and RC and instead of using bubble wrap, pad the box with a polo shirt.
Author:  Gabriel [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
http://www.indycar.com/multimedia/photo ... open-test/

Pictures from the Sebring open test. Some cool liveries right there.
Author:  pending [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-monday-sebring-spring-training-report/

According to this there is a contract problem between Dragon and Lotus. God I hope not.
Author:  Gaara [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
There is no boycott threat.

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_16016/content ... d=MNws4Ywz
Author:  J.Morelli [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Fortunately Castroneves has been one of the drivers who defends the most oval racing, that's good. Can't say the same about TK though.
Author:  Shane [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
pending wrote:
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-monday-sebring-spring-training-report/

According to this there is a contract problem between Dragon and Lotus. God I hope not.


I read the no engines part, didn't see anything about a contract dispute.
Author:  pending [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Shane wrote:
I read the no engines part, didn't see anything about a contract dispute.


Quote:
Her teammate, Sebastien Bourdais, is scheduled to test during the Thursday-Friday segment of the event, while reported contract issues between the team and the British marque continue to be discussed.
Author:  Shane [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Lotus sucks.
Author:  Gaara [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Luca Filippi will race for Rahal from Indy onwards.
Author:  Chris D [ Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: IndyCar '12 | "IT'S JUST THE CAALM BEFOOORRE THE STORM!"
Saavedra will drive for Andretti Autosport in Indy Lights and at Indy.
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