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My first thought when I read this was how the BBC used to love to cut to the GP just as the grid was being formed

True, the good old days of Grandstand

I can't say I disagree with Will Buxton here

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We get it. Shut up. You moaning about the XXI century isn't going to bring them back.

Nope, it seems like a lot of benefit for a relatively small change. It seems that Liberty are sometimes capable of boring, non-controversial changes

I think it works in american motorsport. You tune in at the top of the hour, and you can catch a bit of pre-race because the race starts 15 minutes later or so.

This is ridiculous. So we can't move towards a more equal society because of tradition? Because the minority of the right wing that spends their day inventing an imagined thought police censoring the world gets angry when we make another tiny step towards equality?

Literally every time there is a redressing of the power balance in society there is the same tired, clichéd cries of "p.c. gone mad!" Or "left wing libtard cucks controlling the world!", whether it be for gay marriage, diversity in the media, equal pay for women or whatever else.
And who cried loudest? Why it's those who now realise they have to share the world power (not lose, SHARE) by those they used to be able to easily exclude.
The fact those that had the power for centuries alone are now able to twist anything progressive In society as some sort of attack on traditional values and way of life to the point you get a trump/brexit situation has genuinely been one of the most depressing things about recent times.
No one wants to exclude anyone in this society, including straight white men. But it's time they learnt to share.

So liberty makes a business decision to try and make the sport more appealing to women and families and suddenly it's p.c. gone mad.
Wow that slogan has jumped the shark so much now no one ever uses it right eh?

And i know we're largely straight white guys on this forum so we're not going to further the discussion much but well, it's happening.

Personally, I've never actually "got" the grid girl thing. I find it awkward as hell to pay someone to be somewhere she has no interest in just to stand there with a fake smile on and look pretty. She's just there for a paycheque, she doesn't give a jack shite about the sport or the fans there, so what's she adding really?

I've seen this day coming for a long time. The fact it has taken until 2018 to finally happen shows you how much the sport was in the grip of an octaganarian previous to this.
As liberty have learnt from their social media, if you finally realise that it isn't the 1970s any more it will pay you back in dividends.

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He's entitled to his opinion just as much as you are to disagree with him.
He's also entitled to air that opinion, where ever he wants to, it's up to the viewer, or reader whether to decide if that viewpoint has merit, not you.

Telling a person to shut up (aka shouting down) because you don't agree with them is not how you discuss something rationally, that's what the kind of people who forced this decision through do to "win an argument".

It's also slightly ironic you telling him to stop moaning about a subject because it won't make a decision happen, when it was the vocal minority moaning about a certain subject that caused Liberty to rethink their position on the matter in the first place.

You guys all patting yourself on the backs for taking the moral high ground while still viewing a forum that has a popular thread titled "The Hot Babes thread" are part of the problem, grow a pair, keep this up and it won't be long before your self obsessed guilt over things you shouldn't feel guilty at has made it illegal to even look at a women.

And what will you actually be missing out on?

The only way that the racing will be an improvement over last year is if Pirelli have got the compound performance perfectly spaced so that there is more than one viable strategy depending on where you start the race. And even then it will have to compete against the negative influence of having to make each engine last 7 races.

Personally, I never watch the Asian races any more as I get two lie-ins a week and F1 is not worth giving either of them up. So I won't watch Australia or China regardless. And unless Max humps the field, or by some miracle the racing becomes genuinely good and isn't reliant on the foibles of Albert Park or the sometimes inclement weather of Shanghai, I won't watch any of the rest either.

And if you choose to get up a little earlier on Monday mornings instead, you might find a premier single-seater series where the cars look like racing cars, sound like racing cars, and race like racing cars.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Is DVR'ing or downloading from a site like RFM not an option?

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The fact you can't see the difference between those two things probably explains why when something like this happens you think it's PC gone mad and the end of gender. One is promoting a clear discrepancy between what men are good for and what women are good for in a sport that wants to appeal to both men and women. That's not political correctness, that's just business sense. The other is a message forum post. If the TBK hot babes thread ends up becoming an international business with significant media exposure, then you'll have a point.

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I mean, I'd also be ok for not having that thread too but that's just political madness gone libtard eh?

But you know.....There are better places on the Internet for.....that type of thing so it falls between two stools really

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As a fellow Aussie I think I might need to start doing this. Unfortunately DVR isn't an option because most of the races are on pay tv now. Anyone know how to get an invite to RFM?

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That was my first thought as well which has an obvious answer. It's pretty hypocritical too since they will champion this ban in the name of "women's rights" or whatever but do the actual women doing that job have any real say in the matter?

Ok, so a possible reason Liberty did that was to gain a wider audience but at the same time they may alienate some of the existing audience as well. But, probably nothing will change as far as their audience revenue goes so it won't make much of a difference in either direction.

You know what they should do? Ban religion. There's a tradition that is not of this time anymore!

Subject: 2018 (RIP) F1 Random Discussion Thread



Typical response I expected since I didn't say any of that, let me repeat just incase you're having trouble understanding, I said that it was ironic that all you guys were so proud of yourself for taking a stand, whilst also viewing a forum with a thread named 'hot babes thread'.

Your response of making links not inferred and jumping to conclusions is about what I'd expect, you even parroted the cookie cutter "yes but it's not the same thing" response that so many movements use now when they hear something they don't like, yet you totally ignore the inconsistency of what I said because "looking at grid girls and looking at the hot babes thread' isn't the same thing.

So you can call people here ironic/hypocrites because they're against one form of sexualising women and ok with another, I can respond with the point that those are two totally different things and provide reasoning for this, and the best you can do is "mmmyes well that's just the cookie cutter response I was expecting, a hem hem"? Might as well just yell FAKE NEWS and save all the words.

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[quote=Philthy82]So you can call people here ironic/hypocrites because they're against one form of sexualising women and ok with another[/quote]

Yes, that's generally what it is.

Both involve you looking at beautiful women in skimpy outfits, but you're saying because one is on a TV and another on the forum it's OK? Wow.

Are you also flabbergasted at people who are ok with hardcore pornography in private but not ok with it in public? How about people who are anti-animal cruelty but still buy steak from the butchers? I get the feeling you don't truly believe this, you're just tired of what you see as endless political correctness, and you're making a really weak comparison to justify it.

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Can the season start already?

For fucks sake.

Perhaps if you assumed less and read more you might understand the point I was trying to make, it's not rocket science. Or better still just look up the meaning of Hypocrisy in the dictonary, then re-read your quote:



You cannot pick and choose how much sexualisation of women is acceptable depending on the form it's presented, the other more extreme examples you give are just that, extreme examples, they have no relevance to the hypocrisy of wanting grid girls banned while being ok with looking at the same girls in the hot babes thread.

But having said that, don't bother replying as I'm not going to bother beating your dead horse anymore.